Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

Huh? I'm saying back then the state ratifying conventions didn't amount to contracts. That's like saying any act of a representative body is a contract (it isn't). There are political remedies, rather than contract remedies, available if a representative body doesnt conform to the will of the people.

And what was that remedy if the Constitution got ratified against the will of the people? Secession?

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

The poor aren't the ones printing more money - and when more is created, the little amount the poor have is further watered down - let's kick the ballistics here - ain't no Uzis made in Harlem. Not one of us in here owns a poppy field.

You mean that post wasn't a level? Where'd all the money come from to keep the 100 million Americans from being poorer than the 10 million there used to be?

 

Originally Posted by niptuck

Are the poor REALLY poorer?

Cell phones, flat screen tv's, fancy nails and hair and most of them are FAT

cell phone is cheaper than a landline unless you get magic jack and then you need an internet connection

can you buy a tv that is not flat screen anymore??

fancy nails and hair? what do you consider fancy?

yeah theres no rich fat people either, you ever been to fucking Texas? Go out to eat at a nice place in Chicago, I guess all those fat guys with the blinging watches sitting at Mortons are poor.

Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Lol

 

Originally Posted by Oh Rale

good post

level 5

I like when a girl has fancy nails and hair - always feel more confident that the bush will be on point.

The thread title said the Poor are Poorerereerrr than they used to be.

Why am I buying them any kind of TV or phone? Shouldn't they spend that money on food and shelter until they get a job?

But nevermind... you liberals don't understand how much HARM you are doing to the poor by giving them sooo many hand outs for soooo long. You don't realize that you are basically enSLAVing them for a life of being dependent. You know this is true but you feel so good about throwing people MY money that you don't see the REAL HARM you cause them.

Give them a fish, feed em for a day. Teach them to fish, feed em for a life time. A hungry man is more likly to get off his azz which will result in pride. But you liberals don't care about other peoples pride just you own.

 

Originally Posted by niptuck

Give them a fish, feed em for a day. Teach them to fish, feed em for a life time. A hungry man is more likly to get off his azz which will result in pride. But you liberals don't care about other peoples pride just you own.

This - if these poor were REALLY poor, where they were in danger of not getting a meal all day instead of having the luxury of being lazy & eating at a shelter (that hard working people pay for btw), they'd pull themselves up by thier bootstraps, roll up their sleeves, get in the race, and make something out of themselves.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

This - if these poor were REALLY poor, where they were in danger of not getting a meal all day instead of having the luxury of being lazy & eating at a shelter (that hard working people pay for btw), they'd pull themselves up by thier bootstraps, roll up their sleeves, get in the race, and make something out of themselves.

Precisely. Then they would want it more and have better execution.

 

Originally Posted by niptuck

The thread title said the Poor are Poorerereerrr than they used to be.

pretty sure the article i posted is basically saying that...not me

did you read it?

can anyone find a post of mine advocating food stamps, welfare or energy assistance or any other entitlement programs?

I find it funny cause during the election I was arguing against liberals with assholes like niptuck and NCJ. But now I dont agree with liberals or conservatives either. I dont like the way either of them run shit. So I have thoughts and questions. I found the article interesting and posted it with a dumb title I guess. Sorry. Carry on.

 

Originally Posted by niptuck

The thread title said the Poor are Poorerereerrr than they used to be.

Why am I buying them any kind of TV or phone? Shouldn't they spend that money on food and shelter until they get a job?

But nevermind... you liberals don't understand how much HARM you are doing to the poor by giving them sooo many hand outs for soooo long. You don't realize that you are basically enSLAVing them for a life of being dependent. You know this is true but you feel so good about throwing people MY money that you don't see the REAL HARM you cause them.

Give them a fish, feed em for a day. Teach them to fish, feed em for a life time. A hungry man is more likly to get off his azz which will result in pride. But you liberals don't care about other peoples pride just you own.

I see it as paying them off so they dont rob you at gas stations. Also keeps them south of 8 mile.

 

Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

See Rhode Island's response to the ratification of the constitution for guidance.

That's a government's response, not the people's. What if a majority of Rhode Islanders still didn't want to ratify and they did anyway? Their recourse is...?

 

Originally Posted by cmval

Free to talk cellphones are cheaper than landlines from ATandT at least. Stuff like this is regional so I dont know what its like elsewhere.

Fancy is debatable. If you are a receptionist or waitress or hostess or cna or something you are usually required to look presentable at work. You want these poor ladies to work dont you? Of course some people can do their own hair or nails or have a family member do them for cheap. I would love to know how niptuck knows how much these poor people spend on their hair when he sees them.

Where can you buy non flat screen televisions anymore? Wal Mart? Wrong. Thats the cheapest place for TVs basically unless you buy used.

Thanks for agreeing with me that some rich people are fat asses too. How many chairs have you broke this week NCJ?

yes, I'm sure the women niptuck is referring to are just making sure their nails aren't chipped before a day at the office. lol

still don't understand your point. are you pretending that the poor in this country don't have it way way better off than the poor itc used to? because that's just insanity.

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

That's a government's response, not the people's. What if a majority of Rhode Islanders still didn't want to ratify and they did anyway? Their recourse is...?

Rebellion is a right of the people

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

yes, I'm sure the women niptuck is referring to are just making sure their nails aren't chipped before a day at the office. lol

still don't understand your point. are you pretending that the poor in this country don't have it way way better off than the poor itc used to? because that's just insanity.

im not saying that..im just asking questions and looking at this from all sides

At this point tho I am more comfortable having the govt help less fortunate with say healthcare than I am giving money to corporations for job creation which is obv not happening. Or for waging wars. I would much rather see money spent on anyone here in the United States than a war.

If tax breaks for the rich were really creating jobs we would be flooded with job openings. Yet we arent.

What would be ideal is a system that everyone is doing well from. Thats not happening either.