Sponsored by the nut cases that want to ban smoking in NV casinos.
The propaganda and the destruction of personal responsibility is tilting me.

"They shouldn't have to"
"They don't choose to breathe this smoke, they have to."

I have great news for these kids. Your parents don't have to work in a casino. Since they are aware it could be harmful they can quit if they choose.

The worst part is this BS is funded by our government.

YES! Unless of course a "doctor" carves you up in the womb. ul, gg.

 

Originally Posted by Mr Galt

YES! Unless of course a "doctor" carves you up in the womb. ul, gg.

Here here!! I for one support smoking in abortion clinics in order to dispel this obvious hypocrisy

 

Originally Posted by cmval

This will make for a good thread I think.

Fuck smokers imo, they should have to go outside and smoking should be banned in ALL public places.

If it was only banned in public* places...

*Public = not privately owned

 

Originally Posted by cmval

Yeah I think businesses the public attends should be included. Casinos, hospitals, bars, restaurants, arenas, stadiums, school grounds, baseball parks, maybe parks in general but def areas like basketball courts and skate parks. Im dead serious too.

I hate cigarettes and its horrible having to be in the same area as a smoker. I grew up with 2 parents as smokers and 1 is dead because of it. I inhaled tons of second hand smoke cause I grew up under dummys that smoked around their children. You should not be subjected to a health risk emitted from someone else ever. Im not against smoking..wanna smoke? smoke all you want but it should be in your house, car, designated area or away from everyone. Why should I have to smell like shit and inhale something that can give you cancer just cause the smoker wants to patronage the same business as I do?

No one forces you to be on a property where smoking is allowed. Pretty soon we are going to ban smoking inside of houses whenever you have friends over...

 

Originally Posted by cmval

Yeah I think businesses the public attends should be included. Casinos, hospitals, bars, restaurants, arenas, stadiums, school grounds, baseball parks, maybe parks in general but def areas like basketball courts and skate parks. Im dead serious too.

I hate cigarettes and its horrible having to be in the same area as a smoker. I grew up with 2 parents as smokers and 1 is dead because of it. I inhaled tons of second hand smoke cause I grew up under dummys that smoked around their children. You should not be subjected to a health risk emitted from someone else ever. Im not against smoking..wanna smoke? smoke all you want but it should be in your house, car, designated area or away from everyone. Why should I have to smell like shit and inhale something that can give you cancer just cause the smoker wants to patronage the same business as I do?

Pussy

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

No one forces you to be on a property where smoking is allowed. Pretty soon we are going to ban smoking inside of houses whenever you have friends over...

well a lot of states are adopting the smoking laws and mine is one of them and its been great

when you go out to a bar or restaurant here no one can smoke inside..its nice

Im not usually for laws like these but I like this one....I must hate freedom

 

Originally Posted by 36crazyfists

Pussy

you must like to smell like dung

good for you

 

Originally Posted by RichardHurtz

Shouldn't the business owner have the right to determine if someone is allowed to smoke on their property? You then have the choice to work or frequent that place.

I'm pro choice

LOL @ "pro choice"... If only liberals really were for choice.

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

Everyone likes freedom for themselves but is scared of their neighbors having the same freedoms.

I hate my neighbors, they throw their butts in my yard actually

Dyz . . . I am not going to argue with you on this one. You are in the right viz. personal liberty, but I STILL would vote to ban smoking in all venues where the public works/frequents. In other words, if you want to smoke, do it in your home, your car, or in the outdoors. It is not a rational sentiment, but at least I am honest about it.

 

Originally Posted by 36crazyfists

You seem like a real fun guy

What has happened to our society when grown men are afraid of some smoke in a bar or casino?

I never said I couldnt put up with it. I just dont like to. Its funny when I used to hang out in bars they didnt have the laws and now that I dont hang out in bars they put the new laws in place. Crazy shit huh? Smokers that dont give a fuck where they light up are usually total dipshits with zero sense of common courtesy or care.

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

That should be and probably is illegal.

Yeah well Im not the type of person to call the cops on two fat chicks with kids just cause they are too dumb to even realize what they are doing. They are just stupid inconsiderate cows. And doing something like calling the cops on someone for that is petty. I get out the leaf blower and send em to the gutter with the leaves tbh.

 

Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99

im not arguing the rights of business owners, that thread happened already. Im just pointing out that people who were dead set against this when it happened here have realized its an issue thats not important enough to get worked up over now. Most places have added outdoor smoking sections now so smokers can have their drink while they smoke, so its not much of an issue anymore.

Would have ended up the same without the laws. Once non-smokers started outnumbering smokers things started to change. In places where smoking in restaurants is legal, not all or even most restaurants allow smoking or have a smoking section.

 

Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99

exactly, it would have happened eventually anyway, so whats the problem in making it happen sooner?

Its a good example of a situation where people claim their "rights are being taken away, and its the end of freedom", but when its implemented it turns out everyone is glad it happened.

The problem is that the government should not be outlawing legal behavior in private businesses however it sees fit. If the demand for non-smoking bars is so enormous, there will be no shortage of businesses to cater to the demand.

If someone is afraid of drowning, they shouldn't go in the ocean. If someone is afraid of heights, they shouldn't go to high places. If someone is afraid of second-hand smoke, they shouldn't patronize or work in businesses that permit smoking. All of this is common sense.

Not too long from now cigarettes will be legal to sell, but illegal to smoke.