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do you only buy products from small businesses?Originally Posted by userid363
lol. .14 on everything? you mean no companies already offer health insurance? very small businesses aren't exempt?
didn't know? lolOriginally Posted by EyeKnows
if you didn't know I was saying the same thing as you, welp-o-rama.
the number I'd be willing to pay is considerably higher than $.14/pizza. what's your number you cheap bastard?
my number is zero. why should I pay for someone else's healthcare?? Unless the employer has factored in an amount already to pay for his/her employees healthcare. if that final number is worth it to me I will make the purchase.
never had papa john's fwiw. sounds gross. maybe I should be forced to buy some or get fined, that way the delivery kid gets healthcare -
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there you goOriginally Posted by p00pymcp00perton
Yes, Socal < Norcal in every way including pizza.
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qftOriginally Posted by p00pymcp00perton
Yes, Socal <Norcal in every way except weather. but it's still too damn hot down here in soulless la-la land.
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Well your employer should provide you a full raise in the amount of money they are saving by not providing you healthcare.Originally Posted by ECUgirl
Why would employers continue to pay for healthcare for their employees if they know the gov't will do it and save them money? I know my employer pays over half of my health insurance every month. I pay around $400 per month for me and my two kids. I couldn't afford it if my employer didn't contribute. I'd be forced to have the shitty gov't insurance.
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you shouldn't have to but you should want to. because it will help your American brothers that have no healthcare.
Originally Posted by norcaljeff
why should I pay for someone else's healthcare??
not only would it be a good thing for them I think it benefits all of us/me if everyone in America has healthcare. Maslow's hierarchy n shit. a large portion of Americans have no healthcare. seems like a small price to pay to help them out.
surely there is a price at which you would agree to pay to help America be a better country? millions of people will no longer have to worry about healthcare. a nickle/pizza? $.03/pizza?
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i'll probably just order my pizza with one less topping
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Norcal, we already pay for people without insurance. Its just indirectly. An example: this part time temp at work just got pregnant cause she doesnt use condoms or birth control. Shocking. She went to Access and is getting covered through them
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Lol. Amazing this brings me back, what a classic thread.Originally Posted by ajedrez
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Leet8s is spot on as usual just like years ago...Obama isn't losing, no chance.
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Originally Posted by EyeKnows
you shouldn't have to but you should want to. because it will help your American brothers that have no healthcare.
not only would it be a good thing for them I think it benefits all of us/me if everyone in America has healthcare. Maslow's hierarchy n shit. a large portion of Americans have no healthcare. seems like a small price to pay to help them out.
surely there is a price at which you would agree to pay to help America be a better country? millions of people will no longer have to worry about healthcare. a nickle/pizza? $.03/pizza?
I also want to point out we are just accepting the 14 cents/pizza but it could be less than that (or more obv).
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Originally Posted by saxman
i'll probably just order my pizza with one less topping
and there's the real tragedy.
I'm hungry and I'm going to go get some cart pizza.
http://www.pyropizzacart.com/menu.php
less than 50 employees for sure. been a lot of years since I've ordered from a chain. pepperoni's from Otto's Sausage Kitchen
https://www.ottossausage.com/
^^^^ best hot dogs anywhere
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Edited By: Zeppelin Aug 10th, 2012 at 07:08 AMGood point. Wal Mart should raise their prices a fraction of a percent and pay their employees/cover them so the tax payers don't have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars per store to cover them. Not like we can expect them to take it out of their 440 billion in revenue from last year. They need the California tax payer to prop their worker up for another 100 million.Originally Posted by norcaljeff
do you only buy products from small businesses?
Not that an American citizen deserves health care if they work at Wal Mart. That would only be expected from citizens in a first world country or Costco employees -
I got a little excited.
Originally Posted by norcaljeff
aren't there like 20-30m with no insurance? is <10% a large portion?
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lol I love this argument. I guess people left jobs with health insurance to go to walmart? let's not pretend walmart has added anything to the health care costs ffs
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Edited By: Zeppelin Aug 10th, 2012 at 08:25 AMYou are having a different argument. The argument is that citizens of the supposed most prosperous and powerful country in the world should all have healthcare, like in the rest of the first world.Originally Posted by norcaljeff
lol I love this argument. I guess people left jobs with health insurance to go to walmart? let's not pretend walmart has added anything to the health care costs ffs
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Ice cream. They should have health care and ice cream, come Hell or High Water.Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16
You are having a different argument. The argument is that citizens of the supposed most prosperous and powerful country in the world should all have healthcare, like in the rest of the first world.
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Why do you hate ice cream?
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Edited By: emcee21 Aug 10th, 2012 at 09:02 AMAu contraire, mon mfin internet frere. I'm a software engineer/boss of software engineers, but had I just been given the chance, I could have been a poet. And if I were a poet, I would wax poetic ribounow on the glory of ice cream, and by the time I was done, you would shed a tear, and be convinced that ice cream on a hot summer's day is a God-given Right. But one of the facts the universe presents us with is that there's only so much ice cream, so many MRI machines, and so many brain surgeons. If this weren't the case, maybe my father would still be alive - but it is, and (as a result) he ain't. Anyway, in his typical terse fashion, norcaljeff raises the philosophical question as to how much of my pizza-purchasing dollar is the pizza delivery guy entitled to, for the purpose of furnishing hisself with health care. I am still partial to this answer: fuckall. He isn't entitled. He provides the pizza at a price, I decide if the price is worth it. If it is worth it, he gets the money, I get the pizza - hopefully the pizza is enough to quell my hunger, and hopefully the money is enough to afford him some health care. What could be more proper?Originally Posted by userid363
Why do you hate ice cream?
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meh, we get this health care thing going you can pursue the poet thing. I'm no expert but those are some pretty words
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Hahahaha! They *should*, I guess...
Originally Posted by Justman
Well your employer should provide you a full raise in the amount of money they are saving by not providing you healthcare.
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Funny . . . other countries seem to manage without killing independent business. WTF is wrong with America that it isn't possible for you folks to figure it out?Originally Posted by 36crazyfists
Meanwhile, papa johns' local indy owned competitors can't afford to provide healthcare to its employees so they go under and now they no longer have a job or health insurance.
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Edited By: pistol45 Aug 10th, 2012 at 02:53 PMActually...when Walmart comes into their neighborhood and they lost their jobs because the small business that employed them closed down.Originally Posted by norcaljeff
lol I love this argument. I guess people left jobs with health insurance to go to walmart? let's not pretend walmart has added anything to the health care costs ffs
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Originally Posted by emcee21
And if I were a poet, I would wax poetic ribounow on the glory of ice cream, and by the time I was done, you would shed a tear, and be convinced that ice cream on a hot summer's day is a God-given Right.
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Originally Posted by emcee21
What could be more proper?
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conservative business owners get mad because Rush, FOX, etc. tell them to be mad, how to be mad and what to say about it.
Originally Posted by Milo
Funny . . . other countries seem to manage without killing independent business. WTF is wrong with America that it isn't possible for you folks to figure it out?
and since they are mad they have to do something about it.
so they fire employees, stop investing in their businesses, sell off assets, under-fund pensions and benefits for their hard working employees (the one they didn't fire), stick the money in their pockets, declare bankruptcy and crash our economy to spite our supposed first negro POTUS. (in the future it'll be revealed that Clinton was the first; another thread for another day)
then they tell us all about how poor folks need to just "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" and earn their healthcare, you know, the old-fashioned way, like they did it - strip companies of liquid assets and remove thousands of jobs from the US economy.
why can't we all think like this? ima go out n git me some now.
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