Originally Posted by Prestonluv

Please elaborate on what of a cookie means?

I will assume u r mocking me but who knows

Its a philosophical quote searching the deep meaning have the word of.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

this is taken directly from st augustine's enigma of evil. the universe exist as is and humans just tune into it. newton doesnt own gravity, he just tuned his mind into the concept of it. same with the concept of good/evil. beyond that, so often we measure the universe and fail to include us in the spectrum of that measurement, we are a part of what we are trying to measure.

 

Originally Posted by slizza420

Ever heard of nukes??? Pretty sure you'll have a different opinion after someone sets one off. Or do you believe that no country is ever gonna use their nuclear capabilities???

The closer to the church the further away from god. Throw out every fucking religious teaching that you've ever been exposed to and just think for yourself.

If you've come to the conclusion that you believe we were born from star dust then cool. But please people think for yourselves and don't be a product of 'group think'

Yeah and the fear is that some religious nutjob leader is gonna start nuking the fuck out of people for idiotic religious reasons.

 

Originally Posted by AmSlim22

or both sam harris and religious people are doing a really poor job of thinking about the complex idea of "God".

should prob do a lil more research on sam harris before reading a single picture and coming to a conclusion....one of the smartest dudes around right now.

 

Originally Posted by Autolobotomist

A nuclear apocalypse could wipe out every bit of life on the planet and it wouldn't be a drop in the bucket of destruction that religion has caused. Religions don't just kill people, they kill dreams, creativity, compassion, and love. The great irony of religion is that they talk of spirit in one breath and in the next they crush it.

What?

Huh?

Que pasa el hombre?

All of the smartest people that have ever lived for millions of years have yet to produce a computer that is as powerful as the human brain. Science -- still losing.

 

Originally Posted by Mr Galt

All of the smartest people that have ever lived for millions of years have yet to produce a computer that is as powerful as the human brain. Science -- still losing.

define "powerful"

thats all i have to say about that

There's a picture going viral on Facebook at the moment. One of my "friends" just shared it.

 

Originally Posted by Facebook Post

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

I present it without comment.

But I'm pretty sure (about 100%) that student wasn't Einstein.

actually just read that and laughed my ass off. it rapes. god and faith keeps things alive and moving

I especially loved this part:

 

Originally Posted by Purple Jesus

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

I lol'd.

 

Originally Posted by Mr Galt

All of the smartest people that have ever lived for millions of years have yet to produce a computer that is as powerful as the human brain. Science -- still losing.

I had to lol at the idea of comparing a quarter million years of natural selection with 50 years of engineering, but hey believe what you'd like. We're 10 years away from your benchmark anyway. You've managed to sit in front of your pc and tout the human brain while at the same time mock science-- the end result of human reason. I can't tell you how excited I am to see this backwards thinking directly after my 1st post.

 

Originally Posted by AmSlim22

obv sam harris is very smart. but debating against the definition of God that religion has come up with is not a reason he is smart. that is prob one of the easiest ideas to debate against.

also that quote is a joke. again it is made against a very simple, archaic definition of God and i dont think it is some genius line to take.

i may not be able to, but i am sure the work of sam harris can be improved upon.

That quote is clearly a tongue in cheek remark. Anyone who speaks publicly as much as harris (about the most divisive topic in the world) is going to have clearly biased and unfair quotations floating around. That statement shouldn't diminish in the least everything he's argued before then and since.

And 'what he's argued' is ridiculously far from, as you put it, arguing against simple, archaic ideas. Imo you're misrepresenting harris' work at least as much as that quote does in standing alone.

 

Originally Posted by Hank H1LL

How about humans claiming they have a direct line to the creator himself, and convincing nations of poor uneducated people that only through their teachings can those people be saved from eternal torture? How about telling those same people condoms are bad because they spread disease? Haha oh... How much death and destruction would you guys guess was propogated by that 1 little fib?

When science's target audience is people willing to believe its truths without any goddamn bit of evidence for fear of the unknown then you can begin to have a point.

Looool please tell me how amslim would improve sam harris' work. Maybe he didn't account for how complex things are and he missed the "spiritual" powers pluv has access to

Edit - almost forgot the faithful virgins cutting up kids' genitals. Gfy religion

The "evil" being done in each of your examples are people lying, fabricating, and/or being ignorant ... none of which can ONLY be done in the name of religion.

 

Originally Posted by VanceAce

The "evil" being done in each of your examples are people lying, fabricating, and/or being ignorant ... none of which can ONLY be done in the name of religion.

But when it is done in the name of religion, in the name of an infallible God who will torture a soul for all eternity for not believing in it, it is more than just a lie.

Ok so telling kids Santa Clause exist is evil?