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<SPAN><SPAN>Stop Obama’s Energy Tax For Heath Care </SPAN> </SPAN>
<SPAN>80% of the ENERGY TAX INCREASE is slated for the General Federal Budget.<SPAN> </SPAN>Just 20% of the Increased Energy Tax Revenue is directed at Obama’s green economy and jobs.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>
<SPAN>The Obama Health Care Tax scam will cost billions and a new revenue source is needed according to Obama Treasury Sec. Geithner who didn't rule out new taxes as a means to do so.</SPAN> <SPAN>Timothy Geithner said when asked if new taxes were likely "what the country needs to do is understand we're going to have to do what it takes, we're going to do what's necessary.” </SPAN>
<SPAN>The Obama administration tax increase plan strategy includes an Energy Report it issued that contains no new research intentionally scaring the public with the grimmest, most urgent language on climate change ever to come out of any White House.<SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN>False computer simulations about rising sea levels, sweltering temperatures, deeper droughts, and heavier downpours — blaming carbon for global warming's alleged serious effects and lying to the country to collect the Obama “Energy Tax”.<SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN>The House rushed a bill through before going on vacation and the Senate expects to do the same.</SPAN>
<SPAN>But was the report complete?<SPAN> </SPAN>Did it have all the relevant data?<SPAN> </SPAN>NO!!!</SPAN>
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<SPAN>The Obama-Pelosi-Reid Bill Strategy (Obama PR-BS) is dumping unfinished bills without notice or time to read the details on the House and Senate floor for votes.<SPAN> </SPAN>We must STOP Obama PR-BS and get ready for the Senate Fight.<SPAN> </SPAN>To do this we want to have 1 Million Faxes ready to go and everyone ready to call their Senators.</SPAN>
<SPAN>OBAMA’S reckless promise to get elected now appears to be just another Obama lie when he said “I pledge. No family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.” Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, <SPAN>not any of your taxes</SPAN>.” <SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>
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Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin that questioned the science behind global warming.
The report details how regulating gases like carbon dioxide WILL NOT reduce global warming. Carlin's report states that the information the EPA is using is out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.
Inhofe said "He (Carlin) came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," he's ordered an investigation. "We're going to expose it."
Carbon Dioxide DOES NOT Cause Global Warming
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC) Data
The Truth For seven and a half years, is that global temperatures have been falling rapidly. The UN IPCC's predicted warming path (pink region) bears no relation to the global cooling data that the IPCC has observed in the 21st century to date. Source: SPPI global temperature index.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Is Food For Plants not "Air Pollutant"
CO2 is not an "air pollutant," but rather food for plants and marine life. And its atmospheric levels are controlled by temperature and other biological/chemical variables -- not the other way around (Just as: Lung Cancer does not cause smoking). But most of all, a magical CO2 knob for controlling weather and climate simply does not exist.
The possible effect that forcing down CO2 levels may have on plants by reducing the food supply are catastrophic.
WHY BLAME CARBON DIOXIDE?
The Answer:
Democrats Are Using The Carbon Lie To Raise Taxes
WITHOUT CARBON DIOXIDE TO BLAME THE OBAMA'S TAX INCREASE OF HISTORIC PROPORTIONS EVERYONE MUST PAY WHEN THEY FLIP ON A LIGHT SWITCH IS NOT NECESSARY
Turning on the Light = Cap and Trade = Democrat Tax Increase
Pelosi and the Democrats ignored American voters and listened to Obama and Gore as they lobbied for and passed the biggest tax increase in history that is estimated to increase energy costs per family by $1,600 to $3,200 each year.
Obama promised over and over that he would cut taxes for the 95% of Americans making less than $250,000 per year during the campaign last year, in the debates, in speeches and now he lobbied for and got step one of his historic regressive tax increase on 100% of America, even those not paying income tax.
Obama Campaigned On False Pretenses And Must Be Stopped.
He pledged that his tax increases would only apply to the top 5% of Americans making over $250,000. Yet Obama fully supported passage of the House "Energy TAX" bill that taxes everyone that just flips on a light switch.
STOP Obama PR-BS and get ready for the Senate Fight.
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OBAMA ALREADY LOBBYING THE SENATE
President Obama called on senators to disregard what he called the "misinformation" offered by critics of his energy bill, which passed the House of Representatives late Friday night despite GOP predictions that it will further damage the economy.
"We must not be prisoners of the past," he said in his radio and Internet address. "Don't believe the misinformation out there that suggests there is somehow a contradiction between investing in clean energy and economic growth. It's just not true."
Democrats pushing the bill have admitted that the total tax costs per family will increase. But the whole purpose of the bill is to raise the price of using carbon-based energy to reduce its use, 17% by 2020 and 83% by 2050. That is probably going to require even more than $3,000 per family per year.
Obama's Carbon Disaster
Obama fanatically believes in a carbon disaster and The Great Energy Lie - that Energy Emissions Cause Global Warming. Obama ignores sound science and the United Nations own data that the earth has been in a 10 year cooling period said of the bill's passage "There is no longer a debate about whether carbon pollution is placing our planet in jeopardy. It's happening."
The bill will also result in millions of lost jobs and a weakened economy due to high cost energy. Remaining manufacturing in America will flee overseas. The coal industry will be phased out.
China Rejects "Energy Tax" bill will not reduce global warming
Obama is on his own as countries around the world such as France, Poland, Australia, the Czech Republic, and New Zealand are turning against the cap-and-trade "Energy Tax" regressive policies for their own countries, and China that Obama is borrowing 50 cents of every dollar he spend from and India have rejected the idea for their emerging economies all along.
Even global warming advocates admit that the bill passed by the House will have no significant effect in reducing global warming, despite all of its costs for the America people.
With these and other developments on the horizon Obama is poised to break the central promise of his campaign, which took him straight to the White House. Did Obama win last year on false pretenses? Perhaps he might remember this cautionary tale: When the first President Bush broke his campaign pledge not to raise taxes in 1990, he was booted out in the next election.
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Im all for Socialism, who wouldnt more vacation time?
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the internet + political discussions + ordinary people = a lot of stupid fucking things being posted/said/speculated/etc. it's why i open like 3 political threads here a year. only when i see glen beck might be fired do i get excited for a political thread. then i realize people like HelenRNurse are actually stupid enough to believe glen beck and the likes.
i have no idea what your long, likely extremely biased post was about. i'm sure it was a great post. then again, it's also 100% clear you had nothing to do with the writing of it. so, whatever. good job copy/pasting and not interjecting any real thought into this post. -
i see your one of those guys...let me guess...obama is doing a great job? and obama got elected for his wonderful knowledge and experience in politics? lol please post less
Originally Posted by sketchy1
the internet + political discussions + ordinary people = a lot of stupid fucking things being posted/said/speculated/etc. it's why i open like 3 political threads here a year. only when i see glen beck might be fired do i get excited for a political thread. then i realize people like HelenRNurse are actually stupid enough to believe glen beck and the likes.
i have no idea what your long, likely extremely biased post was about. i'm sure it was a great post. then again, it's also 100% clear you had nothing to do with the writing of it. so, whatever. good job copy/pasting and not interjecting any real thought into this post. -
not me
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you pegged me so well. except you didn't get 1 thing right. but ok.
Originally Posted by Kelliher20
i see your one of those guys...let me guess...obama is doing a great job? and obama got elected for his wonderful knowledge and experience in politics? lol please post less
no i don't think obama is doing a great job. i didn't/wouldn't have voted for him. i was too busy not really giving a shit which of the two candidates who were destined to win actually won.
i don't support either party and i don't support the direction either party wants our nation to go in. a 2 party system run by a bunch of sensationalists who get voted by a bunch of overly-emotional people who actually take the time to go vote basically puts us in a shitty spot no matter who wins.
but it's nice to know that you inferred so many incorrect guesses as to my political affiliation and whatnot. i guess that's why you think i should post less, because you have no fuckin clue what i think or what i am trying to get at with my post. copy/pasting some bullshit from some political group with their own agenda (usually to make money and gain power) with a narrow, one-sided argument for whatever the fuck they are arguing for is basically as dumb as you can get.
it's like saying "ok, i have nothing of interest to post here, but here's a 2 page article from some stupid fucks who think obama is a socialist."
seriously, take your own advice, and post less. no, i take that back, i think you should probably seek euthanasia. it will cure all of your problems.
if not, i have some nice "obama is a nazi" stickers for you. i'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with them. -
Democrats and Republicans and the NRA and all the crazy religious people and everyone who thinks Obama is a nazi and Fox News and MSNBC and oh my fucking head hurts. This is why i never leave the house...
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you need my address for those stickers?
Originally Posted by sketchy1
you pegged me so well. except you didn't get 1 thing right. but ok.
no i don't think obama is doing a great job. i didn't/wouldn't have voted for him. i was too busy not really giving a shit which of the two candidates who were destined to win actually won.
i don't support either party and i don't support the direction either party wants our nation to go in. a 2 party system run by a bunch of sensationalists who get voted by a bunch of overly-emotional people who actually take the time to go vote basically puts us in a shitty spot no matter who wins.
but it's nice to know that you inferred so many incorrect guesses as to my political affiliation and whatnot. i guess that's why you think i should post less, because you have no fuckin clue what i think or what i am trying to get at with my post. copy/pasting some bullshit from some political group with their own agenda (usually to make money and gain power) with a narrow, one-sided argument for whatever the fuck they are arguing for is basically as dumb as you can get.
it's like saying "ok, i have nothing of interest to post here, but here's a 2 page article from some stupid fucks who think obama is a socialist."
seriously, take your own advice, and post less. no, i take that back, i think you should probably seek euthanasia. it will cure all of your problems.
if not, i have some nice "obama is a nazi" stickers for you. i'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with them. -
I'm just shocked people would compare the potus to hitler. that never happened when bush/clinton/bush/reagan etc etc etc was in office!
what's really funny is the people that are outraged (and rightfully so) re someone calling obama hitler but weren't so quick to denounce the people that called bush hitler. many seem to be the same people, in fact lolsigh -
i just don't like 60 year old fat white dudes representing my beliefs. a representative system like we have is bullshit. i have no idea how to fix it nor what is better/worse. i just know our system sucks balls because we have 300 million people living here and 299,999,000 of them are complete fucking morons. complete fucking morons tend to vote for complete fucking morons to represent them.
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no, it's ok. i am sure i can find you with an assault riffle strapped to your back at the next town hall meeting, likely shouting something with the words "socialism, nazi, obama, killing old people, etc." i'll just hand them to u and be on my way.
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Sketchy I agree with you and thats why i never leave the house anymore
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I wanted to know what other people thought, no one cares what I think, and im really not even qualified to argue about some aspects, thats why I asked if anyone else had seen this, and what they thought?
Originally Posted by sketchy1
the internet + political discussions + ordinary people = a lot of stupid fucking things being posted/said/speculated/etc. it's why i open like 3 political threads here a year. only when i see glen beck might be fired do i get excited for a political thread. then i realize people like HelenRNurse are actually stupid enough to believe glen beck and the likes.
i have no idea what your long, likely extremely biased post was about. i'm sure it was a great post. then again, it's also 100% clear you had nothing to do with the writing of it. so, whatever. good job copy/pasting and not interjecting any real thought into this post.
Pretty clear I was not claiming to have had anything to do with the creation of it.
Tom -
i def never called bush hitler and i could really give a shit less if anyone did. i also couldn't really care less if people call obama hitler. it just automatically labels them as fucking morons for me and i can ignore whatever they have to say immediately.
Originally Posted by norcaljeff
I'm just shocked people would compare the potus to hitler. that never happened when bush/clinton/bush/reagan etc etc etc was in office!
what's really funny is the people that are outraged (and rightfully so) re someone calling obama hitler but weren't so quick to denounce the people that called bush hitler. many seem to be the same people, in fact lolsigh
however, i DO get upset when republicans get upset that i'm upset that obama is compared to hitler. it's a disgusting fucking comparison that is completely and utterly incorrect. it's completely hypocritical of any republican to call obama hitler given that every one of you fucking morons were upset when dems called bush hitler.
and how many motherfucking times is fox news going to say how awesome all the right wing protesters at the town hall meetings are? THESE ARE THE SAME STUPID FUCKS WHO DENOUNCED ANYONE WHO PROTESTED AGAINST BUSH. they call left wing protestors anti-americans who "dare to challenge the president during a time of war/economic downturn." and then what happens when obama wins, and brings up health care reform? seriously. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. i personally think that the first amendment is a great thing, and while i think the protesters on both sides are overly emotional and extremely naive, it's great that they have that right. what's not great is that they choose to use it to shout stupid shit at the top of their lungs and picket at places with the dumbest signs of all time. seriously, if you can't construct your own thoughts into a rational debate in front of a senator and you can only resort to calling their policies nazi-inspiried policies, then you DON'T DESERVE TO VOICE YOUR OPINION. you have the greatest nation on earth with the greatest freedoms (both things i actually believe) and you have the opportunity to voice your opinion to where millions can hear what you have to say... and instead you make a complete and utter ass of yourself and call obama a nazi just so that your mug is on the evening news. and what's better is that ALL of these idiots have later appeared on fox news. LOL.
lol this is just one big circle that everyone who has drawn a line in the sand and said "i'm a republican/democrat and if you aren't then you're against me." nope, i am against stupid motherfuckers who feel the need to identify their political beliefs with one party over the other instead of just voting/speaking their heart.
but seriously guys, keep it up. these political debates are not only extremely diluted by dumb people like most of you but they also have completely lost any meaning whatsoever in the real world. i think anyone who chooses to not join in these arguments on the internet (and if you'll check, other than the glen beck thread, i almost NEVER show my face in these threads, i just can't take all this stupid partisan bickering on the board from somewhat intelligent people who can't form an original thought if their lives depended on it) and never gives a second thought to the counter-argument of their point are completely and utterly hopeless and basically the reason we're in the shit storm we are in as a nation. -
i'll apologize because my post is less targeted at you and every other fucking right wing nutjob talking head on here and on fox news.
Originally Posted by tommpat2000
I wanted to know what other people thought, no one cares what I think, and im really not even qualified to argue about some aspects, thats why I asked if anyone else had seen this, and what they thought?
Pretty clear I was not claiming to have had anything to do with the creation of it.
Tom
i really have no clue what your post was about nor do i really care to find out. no offense. i just don't read this bullshit.
but the point is clear and i'm not going to change my words. -
damn only 1000 smart people in the u.s.?
Originally Posted by sketchy1
i just don't like 60 year old fat white dudes representing my beliefs. a representative system like we have is bullshit. i have no idea how to fix it nor what is better/worse. i just know our system sucks balls because we have 300 million people living here and 299,999,000 of them are complete fucking morons. complete fucking morons tend to vote for complete fucking morons to represent them.
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well of course people saying the/any potus is a nazi are fucktarded, that's my point
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It seems to me that at 26 years old you have all the answers, can use profanity as a noun, adjective and a verb all the while dissing people you do not even know. That said you are quite correct in my opinion about most politicians. With the exception of not understanding that all of them have an agenda, and that agenda in most cases does not favor you or your future. The fiscal policies of the powers that be since the turn of the century has made one thing certain...there is a day of reckoning coming...soon.
Originally Posted by sketchy1
i'll apologize because my post is less targeted at you and every other fucking right wing nutjob talking head on here and on fox news.
i really have no clue what your post was about nor do i really care to find out. no offense. i just don't read this bullshit.
but the point is clear and i'm not going to change my words. -
Day of reckoning? Hopefully it takes all you bible thumping, gun carrying wackos out of here....
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first thing, sketchy pwns teh pokerz. unfortunately it sounds like i completely disagree with you politically, which is fine because if no one disagreed our country would be shit. but if you hate the political system so much why don't you move? yes all politicians have their own agendas but so do all leaders of other foreign countries. this doesnt make it right, but its just the nature of human beings.
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I've had a constant headache for about a month now listening to all the fear mongering and fabrications about Obama's healthcare plan.
It's one thing to appose it and have valid concerns. It's another to turn on the news and see these brainwashed fucktards holding up Obama Nazi signs and ask about death panels at town hall meetings because they religiously follow their boys Hannity and Beck.
It makes me sick and unfairly puts a sour taste in my mouth for most Republicans. -
Funny how everyone is talking Nazi and heathcare, this is about tax issues and carbon crap
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does rev phelps make you hate all christians? does COPS make you think black people and white people in wifebeaters are criminals? does watching a chick on Cheaters make you think all women cheat? lol
and I assume you had the same distatase for the fucktards who called bush a nazi? -
idk, hes saying he hates our system because our country is so dumb. if thats the case why doesnt he move somewhere that he likes their system of gov?
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i'm getting sick of hearing about these town hall meetings being where a bunch of crazy people go with crazy signs and swastikas. MAYBE there were a few strange incidents like this and every other type of debate/protest but the majority of the town hall meetings are extremely peaceful with very normal people. maybe MSNBC is showing you the few isolated incidents? you're way off on the types of people going to these events
Originally Posted by BirdWings
I've had a constant headache for about a month now listening to all the fear mongering and fabrications about Obama's healthcare plan.
It's one thing to appose it and have valid concerns. It's another to turn on the news and see these brainwashed fucktards holding up Obama Nazi signs and ask about death panels at town hall meetings because they religiously follow their boys Hannity and Beck.
It makes me sick and unfairly puts a sour taste in my mouth for most Republicans.
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