Originally Posted by cmval

The people who write up these types of laws don't really have a firm grasp on how the internet works. Or at least a low percentage of them do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8XSo...eature=related

it's almost like we are stuck in a really bad dark comedy

hopefully will help curb the rampant theft of intellectual property currently taking place.

http://creativeamerica.org/

This is what pocketfives will look like possibly if this passes

I'd be watching a lot less porn that's for sure.

I'm not too worried, the government knows best.

The more I think about this thing, the uglier and scarier it gets. The sheer vagueness of it is going to end up making a lot of sites too intimidated to deal with any risk whatsoever of doing anything that could be argued as illegal, so they'll end up not existing just out of sheer fright of potentially doing anything they could get charged with and going down in felony fashion for, which could in turn basically end up bringing down the internet into a totally pathetic joke, in the U.S. And the mere loss of entertainment value that us internet forum nerds would endure wouldn't even really be close to the worst of it, although that would obv suck, but really the scariest part of all, is what overall effect there would be on the U.S. overall, as a whole, if we basically fucked over our internet. How many business and just things in general in America are extremely heavily dependent on the internet at this point? TONS. Imagine how huge of a blow something like this could theoretically be even for, perhaps, the U.S. economy, particularly when it is already treading on eggshells, and how this would be a fucking HORRIBLE time for anything even remotely powder keggish to occur to set off a huge downswards spiral into oblivion.

FUCK.

is this really gonna happen? if so, why does nobody here care? if this is for real, i think this will be the last straw for me moving out of the country.

 

Originally Posted by killingbird

I think most people don't care because it is a generally a good thing.

how so? seems like internet censorship to me. and don't go all "intellectual property" on me

Protect IP and SOPA are not good things. They are loosely written and worded and there is a lot of room for abuse of the laws the way it is laid out. If youre cool with censorship I guess you would like SOPA. This is just another wool over everyones eyes type of bullshit from our govt. Patriot Act was enacted to catch terrorists...how many terrorists have they caught using the Patriot Act? I can count on one hand. This is just another step by our govt to put our internet on lockdown and censor who they feel they need to censor.

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

oh noes, people won't be able to steal freely? what's next, dye packets in bank robbers' money bags?

lol felony tho, and I'm sure the gov will screw it all up, but it's not like the idea is bad.

edit: how is this "censorship"??

 

Originally Posted by cmval

This is what pocketfives will look like possibly if this passes

you life as you know it could be over

 

Originally Posted by cmval

Yeah now people will just go back to buying their pirated DVDs for $5 from the brotha on the corner like we did about 5-10 years ago.

I did it Sunday, but it's a Chinese lady.

well cmval is under the impression that because of all the unauthorized links and such on here, it would be blocked.

wouldn't the only unauthorized links be ones given to people who ask where they can steal the ufc fight or steal the new (insert wack rapper here) album? it's not like a link to an article or something would be blocked

And to answer the question, under SOPA P5's could effectively be blocked, it doesn't just give the power to shut down sites distributing content but sites that link to those sites (e.g p5s).

Under DMCA, the safe harbor provision allows sites to take down content once they're notified by the rights holders, but the language of SOPA is so vague and gives so much leverage to content owners to just target sites at will, and if the sites, or linking sites don't respond to the claim in time.....pooooffff.... they just disappear from the internet, at least in America.


LOL @ anybody who thinks this steaming pile of shit is a "good thing" or will do anything at all to stop piracy. This is the most absurd, unrealistic, and flat out scary piece of legislation I've ever seen in my entire life. It sets a ridiculously dangerous legal precedent through vague, sweeping language and sites that don't have massive legal/technical staff have literally no chance to be able to contest any claims that come their way.

Yes, let's just shut down the internet, or at least hand control to content creators if it doesn't fit the MPAA/RIAA's business model. Let's allow them to dictate which sites can /cannot live behind the great firewall of America, just scrap DMCA, along with the safe harbor provision and give every website a ridiculously small window of time to appeal an "infringement claim" by copyright holders or else risk being essentially banned from the internet within America, even if its not a U.S site.

Makes perfect sense if you ask me, after all how else are the artists going to get paid?

Edit: Now that I've calmed down a bit, I think the big takeaway here is what this law could mean for the internet. And that's really the problem, we don't know, the language is too vague, the enforcement is too blunt and gives faaarrr much power to copyright holders, and not nearly enough recourse to any sites that they target.