Sometimes you just have to laugh at the stupidity of some conservatives.

Investor's Business Daily wrote an editorial trying to scare people about Healthcare. Here's what it originally said:

 

Originally Posted by Stupid Editor at IBD

"The controlling of medical costs in countries such as Britain through rationing, and the health consequences thereof, are legendary. The stories of people dying on a waiting list or being denied altogether read like a horror script ... People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."

Can anyone spot what is stupid about the bold sentence? Anyone? Yeah, Stephen Hawking was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.

Stephen Hawking responded:

 

Originally Posted by Stephen Hawking, resident of the UK

"I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived."

If you go to the IBD editorial now, there's an editor's note that reads:

 

Originally Posted by Editor's stupid note

This version corrects the original editorial which implied that physicist Stephen Hawking, a professor at the University of Cambridge, did not live in the UK.

Way to go, IBD. That fixes everything.

Fucking clownshoes.

haha good stuff IBD.

 

Originally Posted by 36crazyfists

With your understanding of economics and the role of government (or lack thereof) you really shouldn't be laughing at the ignorance of others.

Right, I forgot. If I disagree with you that means I don't understand. Wait, am I the elitist again?

Great post. A guy said something stupid about Stephen Hawking, therefore our healthcare reform bill is what we need.

Just kidding. I know that wasn't your point at all.

Everything negative that you hear about the reform bill is now officially a "scare tactic". No chance that there are many, many valid criticisms. But hey, you can always revert to the euthanasia thing (and ignore the real issues) to show how desperate the scare mongers are. I really expected a better response to the public attitude toward this fiasco.

I have said it before, they would be better off simply admitting to what they are doing and people might go along with it, but by lying about their goals and objectives it makes them look like they are hiding something and people don't like it, especially when the truth starts to seep out.

People do not like to be scammed.

"Never waste a good crisis." Rahm Emanual or someone like him.

 

Originally Posted by Willywoo

I really expected a better response to the public attitude toward this fiasco.

As someone who is opposed to the healhcare bill and who has intellectually valid reasons for opposing it, doesn't it frustrate you that the town halls are filled with people who are there only to disrupt and not to actually make an argument?

I know you feel you have a compelling intellectual argument against the bill so aren't the Sarah Palin "death panel" comments making you angry?

Well Krugman is a hack who pretends to frpm the austrian school of economics while failing to understand even the basics of the theory but thats besides the point.

If you support massive spending projects at the present time considering the rising debt and plummeting dollar then it doesn't matter where you got your econ degree, what books you have read, or what you do for a living - you are a fool.

-CrazyCrazyCrazy

 

Originally Posted by ltquick

Norcaljeff used to start a hundred equally imflammatory threads a day from the other point of view, but I don't ever remember Willywoo criticizing Norcaljeff for engaging damagoguery in the manner he does with Underdog on a consistent basis.

Your memory does not go back to the republican primary then, apparently.

 

Originally Posted by Underdog34

As someone who is opposed to the healhcare bill and who has intellectually valid reasons for opposing it, doesn't it frustrate you that the town halls are filled with people who are there only to disrupt and not to actually make an argument?

I know you feel you have a compelling intellectual argument against the bill so aren't the Sarah Palin "death panel" comments making you angry?

Not really because the liberals do not want debate, they want agreement. The anger of people is having an effect and a good effect in this instance. Obama does not want debate as is evidenced in his comments relating to those who disagree.

Link me to one thing where he has taken a criticism of this bill to heart. He hasn't. He has engaged in inflammatory rhetoric in order to suppress comment. He addresses the outlandish claim directly and ignores or dances around the legitimate criticisms. Its a dog and pony show and people know it.

People are angry about this because they are frustrated about the lack of input and voice they have had and they now know that Congressmen do not even read these bills. They are simply trying to be heard and being heard they are.

I have no problem with it, none, nada, not whatsoever, organized or not, in fact I find it refreshing that people care enough to get out and attend these meetings. I also find it amazing that the liberals are attempting to suppress these voices by packing the hall with union members and other tactics such as organizing their own people. lol @ "hey you can't organize people, we're the only ones allowed to do that."

This is what happens when the White House pits people against one another.

 

Originally Posted by Echelon

Oh noes! This one editorial at IBD must speak for all conservatives.

I swear to science that you are either as dumb as advertised or a level account. "Some" conservatives = all conservatives? Basic reading comp ffs!

 

Originally Posted by fly44

Yea this is frustrating. I don't like it but I am going to try and make sense of it. These people are against the health care reform for whatever reason. They know that if they try and debate the issue against someone like you or a Congressmen they will look stupid because they are not as articulate and cannot get their point across as well. So instead of looking stupid and making the other side look smart, they just try and look stupid and keep the other side from looking smart.

They're only against it because some evil corporations are telling them to be upset about it.

I really hope this a level....I would love the chance to debate a congressman on this or any number of issues really. 23 year old Hill staffers are 1000x more knowledgable than their bosses, they are the ones writing these bills (along with high paid lawyers obv). Obama and Pelosi combined would be embarassed if they had to debate a thinking person on this health care disaster.

 

Originally Posted by Echelon

Oh noes! This one editorial at IBD must speak for all conservatives.

Quoted from OP: "Sometimes you just have to laugh at the stupidity of some conservatives."

 

Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

I swear to science that you are either as dumb as advertised or a level account. "Some" conservatives = all conservatives? Basic reading comp ffs!

It's youngun's fault...

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...835016#3835016

Can I see the original?

 

Originally Posted by ltquick

Norcaljeff used to start a hundred equally imflammatory threads a day from the other point of view, but I don't ever remember Willywoo criticizing Norcaljeff for engaging damagoguery in the manner he does with Underdog on a consistent basis.

link?

I would be more upset about stupid anti healthcare bill editorials, if there were any intelligent pro healthcare bill editorials.

This process should have gone more like, here is our initial healthcare reform concept, what do you think?

Public: We don't like the wording around the counciling old people about their options, it scares us.

Congress/President: That is not our intention, maybe we could reword it or eliminate that clause, since it's not a central issue we are trying to deal with right now?

Public: Okay, what about rationing, some of the wording looks like rationing?

Congress/President: There is not intent to ration, maybe that can be reworded to make you feel better about it?

etc....

Instead, we get:

Public: We don't like the wording around the counciling old people about their options, it scares us.

Congress/President: You're just an angry mob of Nazi's. You force us to bring in our union thugs.

etc...