1. U.S. Economy Lost 54,000 Jobs in August; Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.6%

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    By TOM BARKLEY and VICTORIA MCGRANE

    Getty Images Job seekers in Denver waited in line for a career fair to open Sept. 2, 2010.

    WASHINGTON -- Job losses continued to mount in the U.S. economy last month, though at a more modest pace than expected, putting further pressure on policy makers to take action to spur growth and employment.
    Nonfarm payrolls fell by 54,000 last month, matching the level of revised losses recorded the previous month, the U.S. Labor Department said Friday. The revision in July layoffs to 54,000 followed an original estimate of a 131,000 drop in payrolls.

    The U.S. economy shed jobs for a third straight month, losing 54,000 non-farm jobs, but the losses were half as bad as expected. The unemployment rate rose to 9.6%. Kelly Evans, Dennis Berman, Paul Vigna, Phil Izzo and Sudeep Reddy discuss. Also, Jerry Seib discusses what has happened to the American job creation machine.

    </div>The U.S. economy has shed jobs for three straight months, though the losses in August were about half the 110,000 predicted by economists in a Dow Jones Newswires survey.
    The unemployment rate, calculated using a separate household survey, edged up to 9.6%, as expected, after holding at 9.5% for previous two months.
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    The report is likely to cause renewed debate during the long Labor Day weekend over what new steps the Federal Reserve and Congress should consider to jump-start the job market.
    Last month, the Fed moved to stop any premature contraction in its balance sheet, effectively taking its foot off the brake pedal by reinvesting proceeds from any maturing mortgage securities into Treasurys.

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    While the central bank has held off on stepping on the gas--either by resuming asset purchases or other unconventional measures--Fed officials expressed concern during the Aug. 10 meeting about the sluggish labor market and debated potential causes.
    Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke declared his readiness a week ago to pursue further moves if "unexpected developments" derail the economic expansion. The "painfully slow recovery" in the jobs market was a central policy concern, he said, given the risks it poses to consumer confidence and the broader economy.
    President Barack Obama, who has pushed Congress to support more job-creating measures, plans to speak Monday at the Milwaukee Laborfest. In addition to a small business bill languishing on the Hill, the administration is coming up with new ideas to promote job growth.

    The report Friday showed that private sector hiring wasn't enough to offset cutbacks in job losses in the government, which continued to let go temporary workers hired for the 2010 census.
    Private-sector companies added 67,000 jobs, following an upwardly revised 107,000 gain in July.
    Manufacturers shed 27,000 jobs, after adding 34,000 the previous month.
    Professional and business services payrolls rose 20,000. Construction, a sector of the economy that has struggled, added 19,000 jobs, as well.
    Total government employment, which includes state and local jobs, fell 121,000. The declines were a result not just of the letting go of 114,000 census workers, but also job cuts by state governments facing budget pressures.
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    In a positive sign, the report showed 42% of unemployed Americans were out of work for more than six months in August, down from 45% in July. It becomes harder to find a job as time goes by, as skills are lost and employers may view long periods of unemployment with suspicion.
    An indication of slack in the market, and thus potential inflation pressures, moved slightly higher. Average hourly earnings of all employees increased by $0.06 to $22.66 in August. The average workweek was unchanged at 34.2 hours.
  2. because of the retarded way we count the unemployed they could make the numbers look better by not extending benefits. If not for the 99 week thing the official unemployment rate would be 6.8%.

    The sad thing is if they came out with the statistics of 6.8% UE His people would be talking about how great we are doing and what a success the stimulus program was. I guess we should be grateful they aren't telling that lie, because we know a lot of people would believe it.
  3. Wouldn't that sky rocket the underemployed number? They don't want that number get into the public's hands.
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  4. hahahahahahahahahahahaha ^^^^ really Playwithfire......results ftw, my god what a worthless graph that is
     
  5. Why so negative??

    Wall Street gains after jobs report offers hope

    Private employers add better-than-expected 67,000 jobs in August



    updated 56 minutes agoNEW YORK — Stocks are on pace to break a three-week losing streak after an encouraging employment report lifted hopes about the pace of economic growth.
    The Dow Jones industrial average added more than 70 points in midday trading Friday. Broader indexes were also higher. Stocks eased off their highs of the day after a separate report showed that the services sector grew at a slower pace than expected last month.
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    The jobs report "created a bit of optimism, but there's still a degree of caution," said Nick Kalivas, vice president of financial research for MF Global. The services sector report renewed some skepticism, Kalivas said.
    The Dow rose 72.13, or 0.7 percent, to 10,392.23 in midday trading. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 8.56, or 0.8 percent, to 1,098.46, while the Nasdaq composite index rose 19.21, or 0.9 percent, to 2,219.23.
    The Labor Department said private employers added 67,000 jobs in August, more than the 41,000 economists polled by Thomson Reuters had forecast. While the report added a small dose of optimism, it also shows that the economic recovery is still tenuous.
    "We need to get that number over 100,000 to feel comfortably that we won't slip back into recession," said Bill Hampel, chief economist for the Credit Union National Association. "We need it over 150,000 to feel confident we have a nice, sustainable recovery."
    Investors have received more encouraging reports on the economy over the past three days than they did throughout August, when data regularly fell short of the market's already modest expectations. Reports beginning with Wednesday's manufacturing data touched off a rally at the beginning of September, which is historically a bad month for stocks.
    The Dow industrials have gained about 400 points since Tuesday.
    There were other encouraging signs throughout the employment report Friday, including revisions to June and July's reports that showed the economy added more jobs than the government previously said.

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    Hourly wages also rose more than expected last month. Temporary employment rose as well, which is seen as a sign of future growth. Employers will often hire temporary workers as a recovery takes hold and then eventually take on full-time staff.
    More than a half-million Americans resumed their job searches in August. That drove up the unemployment rate to 9.6 percent from 9.5 percent, but it could also be a sign that more people are hopeful about the recovery.
    About three stocks rose for every one that fell on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to 389.4 million shares. Volume is light as many investors left early for the long holiday weekend.
    Bond prices fell after the report, sending interest rates higher. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note jumped to 2.72 percent from 2.63 percent late Thursday. Its yield is often used as a gauge to set interest rates on mortgages and other consumer loans.
    Overseas markets rallied sharply after the U.S. jobs report. Britain's FTSE 100 climbed 0.8 percent, Germany's DAX index rose 0.6 percent, and France's CAC-40 jumped 1 percent. Japan's Nikkei stock average rose 0.6 percent.
    Edited By: Joshole Sep 3rd, 2010 at 07:35 PM
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    Originally Posted by rebelfd View Post

    Wouldn't that sky rocket the underemployed number? They don't want that number get into the public's hands.

    only because of the way unemployment stats are presented. It's the amount of people actually collecting UEB, not everyone who'd unemployed. So by extended benefits the numbers look worse. The actual number that is never mentioned (closer to 20%) is only mentioned by those who don't want more of the same policies. Everyone else just thinks we need to spend more. Another stimulus is being worked on right now but it won't be called stimulus because... well most of us understand why and those that don't never will.
    Edited By: ginwilly Sep 4th, 2010 at 06:50 AM
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    Originally Posted by ginwilly View Post

    only because of the way unemployment stats are presented. It's the amount of people actually collecting UEB, not everyone who'd unemployed. So by extended benefits the numbers look worse. The actual number that is never mentioned (closer to 20%) is only mentioned by those who don't want more of the same policies. Everyone else just thinks we need to spend more. Another stimulus is being worked on right now but it won't be called stimulus because... well most of us understand why and those that don't never will.

    i don't know if that's accurate or not, doesn't sound right to me.... I never heard of benefits being the driver of calculations. I mean, if someone's benefits ran out, they're no longer counted as unemployed.... wut?

    I do know the unemployment percentage is not a viable measure though, since it doesn't count the discouraged people who no longer seek employment. In any event, the market looks at non-farm payrolls data as the primary indicator of employment strength, rather than the unemployment rate.
     
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    Originally Posted by playwithfire05 View Post

    i looked at this graph and just pictured Obama in a boardroom, countinously going, "You're fired" Trump style.
     
  9.  
    Originally Posted by AmSlim22 View Post

    i looked at this graph and just pictured Obama in a boardroom, countinously going, "You're fired" Trump style.

    I picture him sitting around saying ok everyone, blame Bush on three
  10.  
    Originally Posted by resilient View Post

    i don't know if that's accurate or not, doesn't sound right to me.... I never heard of benefits being the driver of calculations. I mean, if someone's benefits ran out, they're no longer counted as unemployed.... wut?

    I do know the unemployment percentage is not a viable measure though, since it doesn't count the discouraged people who no longer seek employment. In any event, the market looks at non-farm payrolls data as the primary indicator of employment strength, rather than the unemployment rate.

    I think the key is actively seeking work.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm

    Is the count of unemployed persons limited to just those people receiving
    unemployment insurance benefits?

    No; the estimate of unemployment is based on a monthly sample survey of house-
    holds. All persons who are without jobs and are actively seeking and available
    to work are included among the unemployed. (People on temporary layoff are in-
    cluded even if they do not actively seek work.) There is no requirement or question
    relating to unemployment insurance benefits in the monthly survey.

    Does the official unemployment rate exclude people who have stopped looking for
    work?

    Yes; however, there are separate estimates of persons outside the labor force who
    want a job, including those who have stopped looking because they believe no jobs
    are available (discouraged workers). In addition, alternative measures of labor
    underutilization (discouraged workers and other groups not officially counted as
    unemployed) are published each month in the Employment Situation news release.

    Latest underutilization numbers.

    http://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt10q2.htm

    Alternative Measures of Labor Underutilization for States, Third Quarter of 2009 through Second Quarter of 2010 Averages

    The six state measures are based on the same definitions as those published for the U.S.:
    • U-1, persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force;
    • U-2, job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force;
    • U-3, total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (this is the definition used for the official unemployment rate);
    • U-4, total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers;
    • U-5, total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other marginally attached workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers; and
    • U-6, total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers.
    Chart doesn't look right check link out if you want to see it.
    Edited By: rebelfd Sep 4th, 2010 at 07:37 AM
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  11. thanks for correcting me guys. I half read an article by a Harvard professor who made that claim of what the UE rate would be without the extensions and made a bad assumption. apologies
    lhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...457720188.html
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