"...the Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/

So with this definition doesn't that exclude Obama from being a natural born citizen?

should work now. As I'm reading it, I'm thinking this isn't saying both his parents need to be natural born citizens, just US citizens.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

But WTF, really? He popped out of the womb of an American women in a US State

Well, yeah this is debatable too...I mean, if all of our Military bases are considered US soil, then we have annexed the United States?

 

Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99

more Obama truther shit? holy shit its 2012 people....

What's wrong with asking questions? You really think you know this guy? He's a politician.

 

Originally Posted by P0KERDUUDE

What's wrong with asking questions? You really think you know this guy? He's a politician.

nothing wrong with asking questions, but these questions have been asked over and over. You're a little late to this party. So all politicians should now be subjected to questions about their citizenship? Tell me you've been asking these questions about every other politician as well.....

 

Originally Posted by P0KERDUUDE

Well, yeah this is debatable too...I mean, if all of our Military bases are considered US soil, then we have annexed the United States?



What's wrong with asking questions? You really think you know this guy? He's a politician.

Been beaten to the ground and it is an absolutely ridiculous argument with no logic behind it at all. Not even sure why I am replying

His father was attending the University of Hawaii at the time. The first African foreign student to ever go there. Story kinda checks out

 

Originally Posted by P0KERDUUDE

If there is any doubt that the POTUS or any candidate for that matter, is or is not a natural born citizen, yes they should be subjected to those questions.

Why is there doubt, because you heard some idiot express doubt? gtfo with this garbage.

 

Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99

Why is there doubt, because you heard some idiot express doubt? gtfo with this garbage.

It's a legitimate concern.

 

Originally Posted by P0KERDUUDE

It's a legitimate concern.

not really. You might as well have linked a National Enquirer article. Is everyone in New Hampshire like this, crazy, unrealistic, still living in 1792?

Link works now.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

Maybe jumping the gun on OP but was under the impression he was challenging whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not as debatable, it's not

No I'm not saying he wasn't born in Hawaii. I think I misunderstood the quote. I was thinking it meant that both of Obama's parents had to be Natural Born Citizens.

 

Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99

not really. You might as well have linked a National Enquirer article. Is everyone in New Hampshire like this, crazy, unrealistic, still living in 1792?

You are so naive to think that this couldn't happen. Are you supposed to just believe everything politicians tell you without needing evidence or proof? And New Hampshire is one of the best states in the country.

I wish that link was still broken. What a steaming pile of horseshit that article is.

The conclusion reached by the author - that in order to be a natural-born citizen of the United States, one must be born in the United States to parents who are both American citizens - is emphatically rejected and utterly decimated by the last case this fucking retard cites. As the Supreme Court says in that case,

 

Originally Posted by United States v. Wong Kim Ark

The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States.

And by the way, the above is not some isolated quote tucked in the middle of nowhere in the ruling (as is the quote cited in the article). Every paragraph of this decision is dedicated to citing every conceivable authority to utterly demolish any possible shred of credence to the idea that someone has to have American parents to be an American. Here's a link to the decision for anyone who's interested: http://supreme.justia.com/us/169/649/case.html#649

I have literally never seen anyone be as wrong about anything as the author of this article is about this issue. At best, this is a failure of reading comprehension of truly epic magnitude. But I sincerely doubt anyone who is even semi-literate in the English language could fail so hard innocently. I can only explain this article as a deliberate attempt to mislead the author's audience. Shame on him, and shame on everyone who read this drivel and believed it without bothering to follow his link and read even a couple paragraphs of the decision.

As a new forum participant am I required to read the whole thread b4 I post? They'll never prove he's a citizen, apparently/obviously that isn't necessary

 

Originally Posted by some fucking noob

They'll never prove he's a citizen

I'm sorry I missed the evidence on the pres being a citizen and increasing avg global temperature being a problem

wasnt McCain born in panama on a US army base? wouldn't that be enough for you pokerduude?

Ok, so I found a few things of importance... one is where a natural citizen is defined
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage....db&recNum=227

and I took this from wikipedia of Obama Sr. :

 

In September 1959, Barack Obama Sr. enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa in Honolulu as the university's first African foreign student.

In September 1960, Obama Sr. met Stanley Ann Dunham in a basic Russian language course at the University of Hawaii.

Obama Sr. married Dunham in Wailuku on the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961.

He eventually told Dunham about his previous marriage in Kenya, but said he was divorced—which she found out years later was a lie.

Obama Sr.'s first wife, Kezia, later said she had granted her consent for him to marry a second wife, in keeping with Luo customs.

Barack Obama was born August 4, 1961 at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

In January 1964, Dunham filed for divorce in Honolulu; the divorce was not contested by Obama Sr.