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Tax people help!!! write offs and dependents Question

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  1. buchiYAYO buchiYAYO is offline

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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 1:51am)

    If my GF lived with me the entire year, her children and her are dependent on my income and dont pay rent...

    can I claim her or them or both on my taxes?

    Does that change if she did pay rent?

    How is that differant if she does or does not file a tax return? (Im sure she made less than 5k this year (not including child support)).
  2. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 1:53am) in reply to buchiYAYO

    Not married. Not your kids legally. You cant claim them She will get more money back anyway in Earned Income Credits filing herself anyway since she didnt make alot of money.
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 1:55am) in reply to AFink93

     
    Originally Posted by AFink93 View Post

    Not married. Not your kids legally. You cant claim them She will get more money back anyway in Earned Income Credits filing herself anyway since she didnt make alot of money.

    even though they are dependent on me and she only made not shit this year?
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  4. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 1:57am) in reply to buchiYAYO

    There dependants. And theres legality sir.. Honestly she will get more back filing herself and claiming her own kids. Guaranteed.


    Oh you can claim her and her kids if she made less than 3500. And her or the kids dad doesnt claim the kids on their taxes..

    Im just telling you she will get a better return filing herself with EIC
    Edited By: AFink93 Jan 4th, 2011 at 02:01 AM
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:04am) in reply to AFink93

    Read IRS pub 501.
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:19am) in reply to dank773

    If they lived there the entire year and you supported them over 50% then yes you can.
    How do I know, I got an A in federal income tax law class so gtfo.
    Edited By: wowswift Jan 4th, 2011 at 02:21 AM
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:21am) in reply to wowswift

    only one person can claim them, if shes still your gf let her claim them and share the money since she'll get more.
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:24am) in reply to Ozzie

    He can claim her too idiots. IRS.gov look it up
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:25am) in reply to wowswift

    calculate the tax both ways (her claiming versus you claiming) and see which one comes out with the most win?
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:25am) in reply to saxman

    which scenario nets the two of them more of a return combined?

    he claims no one and she claims the kids
    she claims no one and he claims all of them?

    im not a cpa but i say it's gotta be her claiming the kids.
    Edited By: Ozzie Jan 4th, 2011 at 02:26 AM
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:27am) in reply to AFink93

     
    Originally Posted by AFink93 View Post

    And her or the kids dad doesnt claim the kids on their taxes..

    The dad has a "tax intercept" i guess? Due to child support owed

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    calculate the tax both ways (her claiming versus you claiming) and see which one comes out with the most win?

    This is the ultimate goal obv.
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:28am) in reply to buchiYAYO

    Buy turbo tax and let it do it for you. Dunno how much she made so no one can truly answer.
    Edited By: wowswift Jan 4th, 2011 at 02:30 AM
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 2:30am) in reply to wowswift

     
    Originally Posted by wowswift View Post

    Buy turbo tax and let it do it for you. Dunno how much she made so no one can truly answer.

    prob less than 3500 def less than 5k, I'm on irs.gov, trying to find info on this topic. linky would help
    Edited By: buchiYAYO Jan 4th, 2011 at 02:32 AM
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 3:06am) in reply to buchiYAYO

    The target number is 3650.
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    Jan 4th, 2011 (1/4/2011 3:13am) in reply to AFink93

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf


    Page 12.
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 12:30am) in reply to wowswift

     
    Originally Posted by wowswift View Post

    If they lived there the entire year and you supported them over 50% then yes you can.
    How do I know, I got an A in federal income tax law class so gtfo.

    Than I think you need to take that class over, a dependent is classified as a spouse, a child that is natural, foster, adopted, or step...no where does it state that you can claim a girlfriend and her children...especially if the father is paying child support. You definately need to re-take that course and really read what is said. I know this because I am currently in this class and have the book right in front of me!!
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 12:56am) in reply to mgikgenie

    lol wow
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 1:47am) in reply to SmokeyCasinos

    somebody opened an account just to tell wowswift she's wrong.

    that's awesomeness
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 1:56am) in reply to wowswift

    US tax laws, Wow... not Canadia's. Stop listening to FMXer ftl.
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 2:58am) in reply to BigJohn804

    On pg. 8 the links dont work because it was hard to copy and paste it.
    Example 3—girlfriend
    Your girlfriend lived with you all year. Even though she may be your qualifying relative if the gross income and support test (explained later) are met, not your qualifying person for head of household purposes because she is not related to you in one of the ways listed under Relatives who do not have to live with youSee Table 4

    Example 4—girlfriend’s child. The facts are the same as in Example 3 except your girl- friend’s 10-year-old son also lived with you all year. He is not your qualifying child and, because he is your girlfriend’s qualifying child, he isn ot your qualifying relative Not a Qualifying .As a result, he is not your child or qualifying person for head of household purposes

    Seems like you might be able to claim her but not the child so probably better fro her to claim him and herself. I dont really know anything about this stuff just what I gather from reading.
    Edited By: Cesporz Jan 16th, 2011 at 03:03 AM
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 3:02am) in reply to Cesporz

    Sorry RR; I wanna hook up with Cesporz soooooo bad. You got yourself a keeper.
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 3:07am) in reply to Mr323

    My ability to read documents is pretty sexy I must admit ^_^
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 3:11am) in reply to Cesporz

    Thats what I am talking about, I gotta log off tho. I find you way too sexy, but respect you and RR too much. Good night, wanna cyber? I din't write that, that was the evil side of me.
  24. elendil elendil is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 3:22am) in reply to Mr323

    Hire an account to file your tax, their services are a "write off".
  25. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 5:16am) in reply to elendil

    I told you the correct answer. I have an accounting degree. Its only two years. But thats two years more than most people who work at HR Block or Jackson Hewitt.. And i even looked it up to make sure.. Dont believe me..
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 5:27am) in reply to AFink93

    It is more of a benefit to her to file with her own kids as dependents and she'll stack taxpayer money from earned income credit. Lolz American tax system
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  27. buchiYAYO buchiYAYO is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 5:54am) in reply to negativeROI

    well since thise thread got bumped I tell u how it played out, i could claim them as dependents but not get the child tax credit. she couldnt get the full child tax credit for not making enough, it worked out to her claiming them by just a hundo.

    fuck the government

    fuck obama

    fuck the east enders that aint worked shit and rape my check

    fuck eaqual opportunity

    People depend on me, but cuz we have no blood relation or marraige documents, its on me entirely

    work hard, for those that dont work.... vote democatic.......................................
    Edited By: buchiYAYO Jan 16th, 2011 at 05:55 AM
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 6:13am) in reply to buchiYAYO

    hmmmmmm, not sure if this rant should be taken as a tacit show of support for Republicans... because we know they would surely support tax reform that would allow you to get a tax benefit cause you're bangin' some other dude's baby momma...
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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 8:12am) in reply to wowswift

     
    Originally Posted by wowswift View Post

    If they lived there the entire year and you supported them over 50% then yes you can.
    How do I know, I got an A in federal income tax law class so gtfo.

    this, u can
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