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  1. Was curious if anyone has taught English as a foreign language. And if you have, did you get any sort of TEFL certificate before you started? And if so, online or classroom? What were your thoughts on the courses and the actual teaching?
    I'm considering going ahead and trying to get some sort of certification before I head out of the country, as this is something I may want to do. I don't want to put too much time/money/effort into since I'm not sure I'd even use it, but would like to have it in my back pocket, and I figure that having some sort of certification (even if it's bullshit) will give me a leg up on someone without any certification if I try to get a job.
  2. Would you need to have the ability to speak another language fluently to teach THEM the English language? And if so...curious what can you speak?

    Yo hablo espanol muy bien.
  3. Taught for a year in China 12 yrs ago at a university. I did not have any certification. Different places may or may not require it, but it certainly couldn't hurt to have it. If you are really on the fence, maybe research which countries/cities you are most interested in teaching in, and check out the requirements.

     
    Originally Posted by Sandman_Good View Post

    Would you need to have the ability to speak another language fluently to teach THEM the English language?

    In my experience, many places prefer that you don't have any experience with their native language. This assures that you will teach in 100% English so the students can maximize the experience. In general if a school is hiring foreign native speaking teachers, they are looking to put them in classrooms with students already very proficient in English (and if not they will provide an assistant who can translate). In many countries, students start learning English in elementary school, and it becomes a fixture on their course load through the duration of their studies.

    I rarely spoke Mandarin to my students, I spoke just enough to let them know that they couldn't get away with inappropriate conversations during class, and also used it as a disciplinary tool. If I switched from English to Mandarin, they would sort of straighten up in their seats and pay more attention.
    Edited By: Glo4m Jan 26th, 2012 at 03:33 PM
  4. i taught english when i lived in China 12 years ago. They never realized that i spoke like Inspector Cluzot

    ps: no tefl
  5.  
    Originally Posted by Kiribato View Post

    i taught english when i lived in China 12 years ago.

    jinx
  6. omg gloam we were in Beijing maybe at the same time! I was at BLCU from sept 99 to june 00
    Edited By: Kiribato Jan 26th, 2012 at 03:41 PM
    Reason: wrong dates
  7. 我不知道你能说中文。令人印象深刻
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    Originally Posted by Kiribato View Post

    omg gloam we were in Beijing maybe at the same time! I was at BLCU from sept 98 to june 99

    ahh you were there just before me, I taught 99 - 00 in Liaoning Province. Traveled to Beijing many times tho, was only about 11 hrs on the train. In fact I was there for the 50 year anniversary of the Commie party. A cop confiscated my camera when I was trying to take pictures of a parade of tanks. I was also there for the 10 yr anniversary of Tiananmen Square. Cops had that motherfucking place on lockdown. Oh yeah, I also was there for the millenium NYE.

     
    Originally Posted by Sandman_Good View Post

    我不知道你能说中文。令人印象深刻

    Lol, surprisingly I can read this. Ni xianzai zhidao! I used to be able to read so much better, it disappears quickly when you stop practicing. My speaking is fairly decent still, but I am far from fluent like I used to be.
  9.  
    Originally Posted by Sandman_Good View Post

    Would you need to have the ability to speak another language fluently to teach THEM the English language? And if so...curious what can you speak?

    Yo hablo espanol muy bien.

    I do speak German, not quite fluently, but pretty well. And a little bit of Spanish.

     
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    Taught for a year in China 12 yrs ago at a university. I did not have any certification. Different places may or may not require it, but it certainly couldn't hurt to have it. If you are really on the fence, maybe research which countries/cities you are most interested in teaching in, and check out the requirements.

    I'm going to be moving to Berlin. From what I've heard (just in passing, haven't done tons of research on it) it's super competitive for English teaching jobs there, and they prefer native British English speakers, so I don't have to much false hope for getting a job. One of the main reasons I would want a job would be to get a work visa/residency permit. Also considering enrolling in University to get such a visa, but that seems like a lot of work just to be able to live there.
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  10.  
    Originally Posted by SevenCostanza View Post

    I do speak German, not quite fluently, but pretty well. And a little bit of Spanish.

    I'm going to be moving to Berlin. From what I've heard (just in passing, haven't done tons of research on it) it's super competitive for English teaching jobs there, and they prefer native British English speakers, so I don't have to much false hope for getting a job. One of the main reasons I would want a job would be to get a work visa/residency permit. Also considering enrolling in University to get such a visa, but that seems like a lot of work just to be able to live there.

    In that case go for the certification for sure. As for the visa issue, a viable but more expensive option would be to go there on a tourist visa, then find a job while there and transition to a work visa. Not sure if you will have to do the exit reentry thing though.
  11.  
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    In that case go for the certification for sure. As for the visa issue, a viable but more expensive option would be to go there on a tourist visa, then find a job while there and transition to a work visa. Not sure if you will have to do the exit reentry thing though.

    In Germany that is the standard for Americans (to enter with a tourist visa and then get your work visa/residency permit while you are there). You can arrange for it ahead of time, but it doesn't seem to be the norm. And you don't have to do the exit/reentry thing. I was chatting last night with someone who got an extended tourist visa (6 months instead of the standard 3 months) to France a few years back. Hoping to maybe find the same for Germany.

    Probably will end up doing one of these online certifications: http://www.i-to-i.com/tefl-course/ . Just not sure how many hours I want to sign up for.
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  12. I have thought about it. But at 29 im too old for that shit
  13. Let me know how it goes. I've played with the idea of going back to teaching for years. It wouldn't be the best financial decision for me, but the thought of an international fugue type-adventure is something I often fantasize about.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post

    I have thought about it. But at 29 im too old for that shit

    huh? never too old.
  15.  
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post

    I have thought about it. But at 29 im too old for that shit

    I'm only 28... good thing I'm not 29... oh wait, i'll be 29 before I leave, shit

     
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    Let me know how it goes. I've played with the idea of going back to teaching for years. It wouldn't be the best financial decision for me, but the thought of an international fugue type-adventure is something I often fantasize about.

    will do. yeah I took a huge pay cut to start playing poker 4.5 years ago and started travelling a lot 2 years ago and so far am really happy with the decision.
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  16. Decided to sign up at http://www.i-to-i.com/tefl-course/. Since it was on sale I decided to sign up for the biggest online package, a 60 hour course, 20 hour grammar addition, plus 4 other 10 hour specialty certificates. I have 3 months to complete it all, but I won't be upset if I don't make my way through all of it. I'll definitely do the full 60 hour course, and the others depend on how valuable I think the training is and also how much free time I end up having.

    Starting it right now.
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  17. Been teaching in Korea for almost 5 years now. I just packed up and left. Didn't have/or have now a TESOL of TEFL.
  18. I have no idea how I missed this thread.

    PM Zander, pretty sure it's what he's doing right now and what he's done for a little over 6 of the past 10 years as he's traveled around the world.

    If you just show up in places like China you can get a job... if you want better jobs (the day I showed up in Malaysia I was handed a phone, laptop, the keys to a Proton Saga, a dongle (trust me, it's my new favorite word in the English langauge too, especially since it is always malfunctioning), and a US teacher salary in a third world country), you need TEFL certification especially for more competitive areas like Japan, Middle East, and the like, but without one you're still fine in a lot of places.

    There are a lot of spots like Bangkok and Chile where you can do the certification while teaching at a school and they pay for your training so long as you work a year with them. I did my certification in Prague (I'd already been teaching in Japan for 5 years but wanted the certificate to get better jobs) and got to spend a few months there, pretty amazing place to live.

    If you travel and luckboxed it enough to be born a native English speaker, TEFL is the nuts. If you hate kids, teach adults. If you want to spend your days surrounded by 30-something women with self esteem issues, teach kids :-) If you hate pants, you can even teach online...

    Seriously feel free to PM with any questions... sorry I didn't see this before, and glgl.
  19.  
    Originally Posted by SevenCostanza View Post

    Decided to sign up at http://www.i-to-i.com/tefl-course/. Since it was on sale I decided to sign up for the biggest online package, a 60 hour course, 20 hour grammar addition, plus 4 other 10 hour specialty certificates. I have 3 months to complete it all, but I won't be upset if I don't make my way through all of it. I'll definitely do the full 60 hour course, and the others depend on how valuable I think the training is and also how much free time I end up having.

    Starting it right now.

    How much is it costing you out of curiosity?
  20. it's $250. (and fyi, it's only that much till the end of today, then it goes back to the normal price, which is double. but you can get less certification for cheaper.)
    Edited By: SevenCostanza Feb 1st, 2012 at 01:59 AM
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