I don't think quoting averages is the best way to compare Bush and Harvin. Harvin had almost 200 fewer touches than Bush in college.

Let's not lose focus here gang. This thread is about how bad the JETS SUCK. Not whether reggie bush was better than percy harvin in college or vice versa.

J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK

 

Originally Posted by tommpat2000

while i dont disagree with much here, not winning a SB is what will cost him a job. 2 straight Championship games and going backwards, with all the drama is why he will be fired

(tl;dr)

Obviously winning a SB would've helped his case, but the Tannenbaum/Ryan regime was built up on a house of cards waiting to crumble since day 1. They pretty much went all in on trying to win a SB in the 1st 2 years, sacrificing the long term health of the franchise if they failed. I said it pretty much as soon as they lost the AFC Title game to Pittsburgh: this team is doomed from this point on.

They've made way too many bad personnel decisions and tried to sweep them under the rug at the same time. Rather than try to build a cost-effective, young team through the draft to fill their needs the Jets would swap most of their picks out for veterans near the end of their contracts (think the Jets have made the fewest total draft picks in the last 4 years of any team). They were then forced to pay these guys above market value to keep them because they didn't have anybody on the team (ie someone they could've drafted) to replace them. That's how the salary cap hell started. I'm not saying it was wrong to give Cromartie, Holmes, Jenkins, etc. those contracts. They just didn't give themselves a choice not to.

Meanwhile, the few picks the Jets did use have all bombed. The Jets have to be one of the bottom 3 teams in the NFL in this regime for draft efficiency. Their top picks have ranged from mediocre (Wilkerson) to flat out disasters (Sanchez). They've gotten absolutely nothing from the mid to late round picks they've used. Look at teams like the Packers and Houston that have excelled at drafting the last few years. They've drafted better players round 4+ than the Jets have drafted in the first 3 rounds. They keep sustaining themselves through the draft to where no 1 player is bigger than the team. You think the Jets would ever have been able to afford to lose a guy like Mario Williams? The Texans didn't even give a shit because they already had developed Barwin and Watt (and still got to draft Mercilus thie year because the rest of their team was so stacked). The Jets lose Revis and the whole defense crumbles.

But Rex is at fault just as much as Tannenbaum. His lack of evolution as a coach is like right up there with his predecessor, Eric Mangini. He -- a defensive guru with no offensive background -- came in on day one, traded up to take Sanchez (and Greene for that matter), and said we're going to be a ground and pound team. Nevermind that no team had won a Superbowl with the ground and pound since the Ravens (where he was a coach). It wasn't even the worst strategy. The Jets had Thomas Jones and Leon Washington at RB with a Pro Bowl FB and 4 Pro Bowl OL. With a rookie QB at the helm, it made sense to mask his deficiencies by leaning on your strengths until he was acclimated with the speed of the NFL and ready to win games on his own. Fast forward 4 years: Sanchez is no longer a rookie, the good RB's are gone, the PB FB is gone, Damien Woody is gone and has been replaced by a turnstile of turnstiles at RT. How on earth can you still be shoving this G&P game plan down our throats!?!??! I'll tell you how: because Rex is too stubborn to admit his mistakes on trading up for Sanchez and Greene ("his guys") and that he should have no autonomy on the offense. Instead of hiring an innovator for OC and give him the reigns to the offense, he just replaces one guy who drank too much of the Kool Aid with another guy who drinks too much of the Kool Aid. And at the end of a 34-0 shellacking, he still has the nerve to call Sanchez "the answer". He's too stubborn for his own good.

The lack of evolution as a coach also applies to the Jets alleged "vaunted" defense as well. Year after year we see them get shredded by top QB's because they have NOBODY on the team who can close on a QB. They blitz more than any other team yet their sacks #s have gone down every year of this regime. So maybe you use that as a reason to go draft a hybrid OLB, right? Wrong! No let's rely on castoffs like Vernon Gholston, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman, and Aaron Maybin instead. Let's give Calvin Pace a $40 million contract for him to be a run-stopping LB. And after all that fails and the dream player the Jets need, Melvin Ingram, somehow falls to #16 this year, do we fist bump each other in the war room and get him on the next plane to NY? No. Do we trade back and take advantage of the depth of OLB's in this draft, while actually stockpiling some draft picks for a change? Don't be silly. Instead we need to stroke our egos a little more by taking Quinton Coples just so you can prove all the other teams that doubted him wrong; another 3-4 DL, the one position we actually had depth in coming into this year.

Sorry, I've been bottling this rant up for awhile (and unfortunately I could keep going). So let's just sum it up: the experiment failed. It's time to blow the whole thing up. Thank you for your time.

Dont mind me. Just getting this thread ready for the third quarter.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

Bring it on!

Think it was Merril Hoge who said if Tebo becomes the Jets QB it will be his last season in the leauge

Someone will bring him on as a ticket draw for pre-season games (sounds like a Raiders move). Basically he'll be the NFL equivalent of the bearded lady.

I'll bet we see Greg McElroy sooner or later as well.

can't make a much better throw than that

What was a better plan by the schedule-makers?

TV game for Brees to break the record last night.
Or tonight's matchup to watch this crowd just explode on Sanchez

 

Originally Posted by Hughes4

What was a better plan by the schedule-makers?

TV game for Brees to break the record last night.
Or tonight's matchup to watch this crowd just explode on Sanchez

Im gonna guess you think the Sanchez crowd blow up, based on your love of reality tv.

Sanchize is gonna lock up his starting JOB tonight. Look at those passes, money!

meh guess it will have to wait another week

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

Lol

You goofs really don't get that Tebow is leading the Jets to the playoffs this year. Just hope Ryan is willing to make the switch

I'm willing to take bets. Rules: if Tebow starts at least 6 games and Jets make playoffs i win. Tebow starts less than six games and or jets dont make playoffs you win. Any significant Tebow injury results in no bet (out for two games or more).

Obv I get odds

Dolphin, tell me what odds and amounts you're looking for plz, and I'm prob down. Give me first dibs on taking it for being first to reply too please

Ha. I honestly have no idea what odds would be.

I'm 1/3 trolling 1/3 man crushing on Tebow and 1/3 being serious.

Let OT figure the odds and well go from there. (it's obv not going to be 2-1 or 3-1. That would be silly

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

Ha. I honestly have no idea what odds would be.

I'm 1/3 trolling 1/3 man crushing on Tebow and 1/3 being serious.

Let OT figure the odds and well go from there.

Well the majority of OT is full of tebow haters, so obv the odds would be astronomical. Assuming that these are your rules (I'm copy/pasting yours), I'll give you 5-1 for my 1K to your $200. If you don't want to risk that much, let me know and I may adjust odds slightly

Rules: if Tebow starts at least 6 games and Jets make playoffs i win. Tebow starts less than six games and or jets dont make playoffs you win. Any significant Tebow injury results in no bet (out for two games or more).

After the 666th edition of Monday Night Football, Mark Sanchez Has 6 TD's 6 INT's, 6.6 yards per attempt, a QB rating of 66.6, Long pass thrown was 66 yards and he wears number 6.