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Troy Polamalu wins AP DPOY

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  1. iThinkItMoved iThinkItMoved is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:07am)

    kind of surprised. everyone said this was clay matthews' to lose. congrats to troy though.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:08am) in reply to iThinkItMoved

    I was surprised Terrell Suggs got 0 votes.
  3. iThinkItMoved iThinkItMoved is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:10am) in reply to SerlinSteak19

    yeah, but the fact ed reed was able to get even one vote is pretty sick with as much time as he missed.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:22am) in reply to iThinkItMoved

    In before Packers homers lose their shit.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:23am) in reply to Randinho

    Steeler fan but this is obv an NFL marketing deal... he missed too much time, Matthews seems to have a lot of impact in the 4 or 5 games I caught.

    Edit: Guess I take this back... looks like Matthews missed 4 games too, meh... both damn good, will be fun to watch.
    Edited By: LitezOut Feb 1st, 2011 at 02:30 AM
  6. vewysneeeaky vewysneeeaky is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:23am) in reply to LitezOut

    Next stop, Super bowl MVP...
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:24am) in reply to vewysneeeaky

    Color me surprised. No doubt deserving though.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:29am) in reply to Purple Jesus

    if a Steeler was gonna win it, should have been Harrison. Troy wasnt his usual self this season and he wasnt 100%/missed too much time due to injury

    Matthews should have won it tho
  9. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:34am) in reply to thereraise

    Troy wins the award this year as a result of the Steelers' performance this year versus how the Steelers defense performed last year without him, combined with his highlight reel material. We remember his play against Flacco and his spectacular play against Tennessee.

    He's a deserving winner, although I think there are legitimate arguments to be made for a bunch of guys throughout the league. DPOY is just such a tricky award because each defender is so reliant on their teammates. It's not like handing out the MVP to a quarterback.

    Was the Steelers defensive turnaround a product of Polamalu this year? Was James Harrison's rebound year a result of Troy being on the field? Or was the Steelers success this year because Harrison played at his 2008 level? What about Clay Matthews? What about DeMarcus Ware or Julius Peppers? Charles Woodson or Darrelle Revis?

    So many deserving candidates, and it's not clear-cut. Polamalu is a fine selection, but it could have been awarded to a bunch of guys, and I wouldn't have objected.

    My vote would have been for Harrison.
    Edited By: marinersheep Feb 1st, 2011 at 02:36 AM
     
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:35am) in reply to marinersheep

    What a joke. I have no clue how Matthews doesn't win this. He had an incredible year.

    Troy Polamalu 17
    Clay Matthews 15
    James Harrison 8
    Julius Peppers 6
    Brian Urlacher 2
    Ed Reed 1
    Haloti Ngata 1
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:37am) in reply to Hughes4

    i will say this- i wear Harrisons jersey to all the games we go to... he's bad ass and by far one of my favorite players. Troy however has made several game changing plays this year. The play against Flacco is just one of several that sets him apart from others like Matthews, & I'm sure we'll see plenty more out of him Sunday just confirming he is worthy of DPOY

    Im just stoked it went to a steeler. WOOP WOOP ;)
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:37am) in reply to vewysneeeaky

    yeah, i agree - it was his "impact" plays that probably tipped it his way. i mean, performing big, in big moments is certainly a defining feature of great players, in any sport.
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  13. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:39am) in reply to Hughes4

     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    What a joke. I have no clue how Matthews doesn't win this. He had an incredible year.

    Troy Polamalu 17
    Clay Matthews 15
    James Harrison 8
    Julius Peppers 6
    Brian Urlacher 2
    Ed Reed 1
    Haloti Ngata 1

    A lot of guys had incredible years, and Matthews is in no way a clear-cut choice ahead of Polamalu or Harrison or Peppers, etc. He made a leap this year and stood out compared to past years, and the media hyped him heaps. He's a white guy with huge guns and flowing locks that flies around and makes great plays. A guy like Harrison isn't a media darling, isn't as flashy but puts up ridiculous numbers beneath the radar.

    Matthews would have been a deserving winner, but let's not go crazy.
     
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:44am) in reply to marinersheep

    Matthews led the second best defense in points allowed with 5 of his linebackers suffering season ending injuries.

    Regardless, Pittsburgh is the best defensive and if it's the "give it to the best player on the best team award", like MVP will be, then it's fine.
    The most valuable defensive player was Clay.
  15. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:49am) in reply to Hughes4

     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    Matthews led the second best defense in points allowed with 5 of his linebackers suffering season ending injuries.

    Regardless, Pittsburgh is the best defensive and if it's the "give it to the best player on the best team award", like MVP will be, then it's fine.
    The most valuable defensive player was Clay.

    lol, please. You act like it's a super obvious decision. James Harrison had 40 more tackles than Clay Matthews. Matthews had 14 sacks compared to 11 for Harrison.

    Why is Matthews so much better than Harrison? Please explain this to me.
     
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:53am) in reply to marinersheep

     
    Originally Posted by marinersheep View Post

    lol, please. You act like it's a super obvious decision. James Harrison had 40 more tackles than Clay Matthews. Matthews had 14 sacks compared to 11 for Harrison.

    Why is Matthews so much better than Harrison? Please explain this to me.

    bc Clay Matthews does awesome commercials and signs hats for cancer patients
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 2:55am) in reply to Cmoney3

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:08am) in reply to ParrotHead7s

    Matthews didn't fuck his team with a single 15 yard penalty... ;)
    My argument is that he did about the same with worse teammates.. Even the surviving players in Green Bay's front 7 missed time and Raji wasn't great for most of the season.
    When Clay didn't play, they lost to the Dolphins.

    I think it'd be much more reasonable if Harrison won it, but Polamalu doesn't add to the team as much as either of them do.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:20am) in reply to LitezOut

     
    Originally Posted by LitezOut View Post

    Edit: Guess I take this back... looks like Matthews missed 4 games too, meh... both damn good, will be fun to watch.

    He only missed 1 game.

    IMO Harrison was more deserving than Polamalu, but Matthews should have won.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:22am) in reply to slinger 4

    troy polamalu is def way more crucial to their defense than james harrison is. harrison is a beast, but when troy can't play the steelers cannot run their entire defensive playbook. dick lebeau has said numerous times that troy is the most important part of that defense.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:23am) in reply to iThinkItMoved

    that perfect timed swan dive against titans was just too perfect, glad that he got the award, such a strong player

    but harrison did deserve it and i thought he would get it, i mean, he basically bought the thing
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:23am) in reply to Hughes4

    msheep won this thread. Hughes is just being a homer.
     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    I think it'd be much more reasonable if Harrison won it, but Polamalu doesn't add to the team as much as either of them do.

    pump the breaks a bit bud.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:27am) in reply to Donkey Kong

    [QUOTE=but harrison did deserve it and i thought he would get it, i mean, he basically bought the thing[/QUOTE]

    HAHAHAHA i just lol'd... so tru
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 3:34am) in reply to Hughes4

     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    Matthews led the second best defense in points allowed with 5 of his linebackers suffering season ending injuries.

    Regardless, Pittsburgh is the best defensive and if it's the "give it to the best player on the best team award", like MVP will be, then it's fine.
    The most valuable defensive player was Clay.

    By the numbers, Harrison was pretty clearly more valuable than Matthews.

     
    Originally Posted by Hughes4 View Post

    I think it'd be much more reasonable if Harrison won it, but Polamalu doesn't add to the team as much as either of them do.

    This couldn't be further from the truth. James Harrison replaced a pretty decent OLB in Joey Porter. The Steelers have had great LBs to plug into their system for basically the last four decades, and especially so during the LeBeau Era. Polamalu is a game changer and our most valuable player outside of Ben. I was surprised he won the award, however, since he missed two games.

    Harrison fit great in our defensive scheme, Polamalu changed our system. Troy might be the greatest safety of all-time. It's probably him or Lott, I'll be a homer and take Troy.
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 4:38am) in reply to Pghfan987

    Player A
    100 total tackles (includes 30 assists), 10.5 sacks, 7 passes defended, 2 INT, 0 TD, 6 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery

    Player B
    60 total tackles (6 assists), 13.5 sacks, 5 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD, 2 forced fumbles, 0 fumble recoveries

    Which player would you pick?
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 4:38am) in reply to Justman

    Clay lucksacked about 6 sacks this year being untouched. mbn

    sincerely

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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 4:43am) in reply to kidrockin

     

    Clay lucksacked about 6 sacks this year being untouched. mbn

    sincerely

    Bears Homer

    Ya, getting to play the bears twice makes stat padding ridiculously easy <3 Jay Cutler
     
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 4:46am) in reply to Justman

     
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post

    Player A
    100 total tackles (includes 30 assists), 10.5 sacks, 7 passes defended, 2 INT, 0 TD, 6 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery

    Player B
    60 total tackles (6 assists), 13.5 sacks, 5 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD, 2 forced fumbles, 0 fumble recoveries

    Which player would you pick?

    Opposing teams scared to run to player B's side obv
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 4:54am) in reply to DBQB4873



    Prob my favorite Troy play of the year. Timing is unreal
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    Feb 1st, 2011 (2/1/2011 5:48am) in reply to Justman

    Suh probably deserved the award but it's pretty close.

    Interior D-lineman that command double/triple teams,stop the run and get to the QB consistently are incredibly valuable.

    It's guys like Suh and Ngata that allow these OLB's to roam free and rack up 100+ tackles and 10+ sacks.

    Peppers is a close 3rd imo.

    1. Suh
    2. Ngata
    3. Peppers
    4. Harrison
    5. Mathews
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