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*** UFC 104 - Machida vs. Shogun ***

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  1. LDM LDM is offline

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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 11:46am) in reply to Camronius

     
    Originally Posted by Camronius View Post

    Definitely no question deserves a rematch. Not any player in particular. Just my thoughts in regards to the bout in general... needs a rematch.

    Anyone else find Joe Rogan extremely one sided and extremely annoying today? I honestly didn't care who won, and holy christ Joe was a few seconds short of shoving white shorts' potatoe stuffed shorts in his mouth. Brutal, I honestly think that 99% of the time Rogan does an amazing job... today however he blew it big time. He showed his favoritism and really ruined the match. Even the post game interview was brutal. Joe acted like an upset girl friend... extemely unprofessional.

    couldn't disagree more.

    yes Rogan was lop sided as shit for Rua. But that's because Joe sucks and Rua dictated the ENTIRE fight. We don't talk about the Royals or the Grizzles for a the same reason he didn't discuss Lyoto. Machida didn't do what Machida did for his first 15 fights. If anyone really thinks Joe went into the fight a Shogun fan, you're sadly mistaken. I guarantee he wanted to swing from the Dragon's nuts, but Machida didn't give him the opportunity.

    Rogan sucks at his job. He is the epitome of Malcolm Gladwell's outliers. Right place, right time to land an awesome job. He's consistently 10sec's behind the action and misses shit pretty much every fight. He's a character at best. His post fight interview was easily the most professional shit he's ever done. He called the fight like everyone saw it and asked hard hitting questions.

    Something an interviewer should do.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 11:47am) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    my prediction is Machida by unanimous decision.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:07pm) in reply to LDM

     
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post


    like reading DaVols typing "Go UT, beat bama."

    go find 1 homerish post I have made, ever

    thanks
  4. LDM LDM is offline

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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:15pm) in reply to DaVols

    name association only. not saying you would ever post it.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:17pm) in reply to LDM

     
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post

    name association only. not saying you would ever post it.

    sweet, i'm popular!
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:20pm) in reply to LDM

    I think because Lyoto Machida drinks his own urine it gives him the power to sway the judges. haha... DrG man its all good, we still love you, just trying to get it through to you that it was quite easy to see why shogun should win, still love your posts and post fight threads dawg, you hooked me up with a working link thats great.

    Gotta go with LDM on this one thou :)
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:39pm) in reply to ZachL

    http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html
    49-47 rua
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 1:57pm) in reply to preezie

    great breakdown.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 2:05pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    LOL at GHouse. His boy gets beat so he has to watch it 4 more times to justify the decision.
     
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 2:12pm) in reply to WiCane

    Sounds like Dana agrees with a lot of what GHouse has been saying. I missed the fight so I don't know. Dana also said they should have a rematch ASAP.

    "You saw it a lot in boxing – and these guys have got to learn it in MMA – is when that 30 seconds is left, go after it and try to steal that round. Neither one of them did it throughout the fight."

    It was that inability to steal rounds that led to the hotly disputed decision. But while White claimed he felt Rua earned the win, the UFC exec admitted the rounds were close.

    "When you go round-by-round and you score the fight, I actually had Machida winning the fight up until the third round," White said. "The first round could have gone either way. I gave the second and third to Machida. And then I gave the fourth and fifth to 'Shogun.' Assuming that 'Shogun' won the first, fourth and fifth, he wins the fight.

    "I knew it was going to be a tough one. I knew it was going to be strategic. It was everything I thought it would be, except they should have pressed more and gone after it at the end of the rounds and tried to really pull out the rounds and make it easier to score. It was a tough fight to score."
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 2:14pm) in reply to Luckypizza

    you think Dana is going to say "Rua won, he got screwed, our judging is a joke?"
     
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 6:03pm) in reply to ripomatic

    was that a shot at me newb?
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 6:39pm) in reply to LDM

     
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post

    couldn't disagree more.

    yes Rogan was lop sided as shit for Rua. But that's because Joe sucks and Rua dictated the ENTIRE fight. We don't talk about the Royals or the Grizzles for a the same reason he didn't discuss Lyoto. Machida didn't do what Machida did for his first 15 fights. If anyone really thinks Joe went into the fight a Shogun fan, you're sadly mistaken. I guarantee he wanted to swing from the Dragon's nuts, but Machida didn't give him the opportunity.

    Rogan sucks at his job. He is the epitome of Malcolm Gladwell's outliers. Right place, right time to land an awesome job. He's consistently 10sec's behind the action and misses shit pretty much every fight. He's a character at best. His post fight interview was easily the most professional shit he's ever done. He called the fight like everyone saw it and asked hard hitting questions.

    Something an interviewer should do.

    UR absolutely spot about Rogan. If not for UFC ppl wouldnt even know who the fuck he was and the ones that did would be thats that fcker from fear factor that would be his legacy bc his comedy/stand up is half ass at best
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 6:48pm) in reply to Jesse5times

    Cmon fellas, lets leave rogan out of this, the guys a class act.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 7:10pm) in reply to PrincipalSkinner

     
    Originally Posted by PrincipalSkinner View Post

    Cmon fellas, lets leave rogan out of this, the guys a class act.

    LOL
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 7:48pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 8:01pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    Anyone know where I could watch the post-fight interiews? I watched the UFC in a bar and couldn't hear shit.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 8:42pm) in reply to Camz

     
    Originally Posted by Camz2895 View Post


    Anyone know where I could watch the post-fight interiews? I watched the UFC in a bar and couldn't hear shit.

    ufc.com
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 9:31pm) in reply to jd8619

    Just caught this fight in the UK plus I'm new to this UFC lark, but for all the aggression Shogun showed, Machida was never remotely hurt. If the fight had gone on for another 20 rounds there was only ever going to be one winner by knockout. Machida is a double hard bastard, guess he's got the 'chi'.
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 10:10pm) in reply to WiCane

     
    Originally Posted by WiCane View Post

    you think Dana is going to say "Rua won, he got screwed, our judging is a joke?"

    he said exactly that, watch his press conference afterwards
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 10:10pm) in reply to Izrafel

    HOLY FUCKIN SHIT HOW ARE SOME OF YOU SOO FUCKIN IGNORANT. never once in the thread was dr g house tryin to say that in his eyes machida won the fight. every post he made he was tryin to figure out how the judges might have scored the fight in machidas favor. He gave some examples of things the judges may have seen that would lead them to give machida the decision. HE NEVER SAID MACHIDA SHOULD HAVE WON. he said he himself thought shogun was the winner. reading comprehension FTW holy fuck
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 10:16pm) in reply to deej_0607

     
    Originally Posted by deej_0607 View Post

    HOLY FUCKIN SHIT HOW ARE SOME OF YOU SOO FUCKIN IGNORANT. never once in the thread was dr g house tryin to say that in his eyes machida won the fight. every post he made he was tryin to figure out how the judges might have scored the fight in machidas favor. He gave some examples of things the judges may have seen that would lead them to give machida the decision. HE NEVER SAID MACHIDA SHOULD HAVE WON. he said he himself thought shogun was the winner. reading comprehension FTW holy fuck

    high strung much
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 10:26pm) in reply to preezie

    really i just cant stand stupid ppl and there's a lot of them itt
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 10:49pm) in reply to deej_0607

     
    Originally Posted by deej_0607 View Post

    really i just cant stand stupid ppl and there's a lot of them itt

    who did you want to win the fight?
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    Oct 25th, 2009 (10/25/2009 11:00pm) in reply to LDM

     
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post

    who did you want to win the fight?

    i dont really see how it matters but i was cheering for machida and just like the crowd at staples center, thought the decision was malarky
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    Oct 26th, 2009 (10/26/2009 12:25am) in reply to deej_0607

    Watching this fight with the sound turned off makes a ton of difference...Rogan was all over Ruas nuts
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    Oct 26th, 2009 (10/26/2009 12:40am) in reply to astaggs

    My opinion, which doesn't mean anything:

    Shogun executed his plan of counter leg kicks well. You just can't expect to leg kick your way to a title win.

    Going into the 5th, I had the fight 2-2, and I wouldn't expect a judge to take a belt away from someone unless the 5th was won fairly decisively, which I'm not sure it was.

    I would be fine either way. If Shogun would have won I wouldn't have minded at all, but I really don't think he was "robbed."

    Also as Staggs pointed out, if you would have seen it the first time with Rogan muted, you wouldn't have thought Shogun was as effective as he made him seem.
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    Oct 26th, 2009 (10/26/2009 12:02pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    http://www.icefilms.info/index.php?o...video=77361#IP

    if you can't view or don't hear sound down load the direc x and avi codec close to the bottom of the page
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