lol he mad

 

Originally Posted by StlngMyChps

PPPPFFFFFFF Condit clearly won that fight.

I think so too, but they don't score the fight on the whole, they do it by round, and the first 3 rounds could have gone to Diaz, or they could have gone to Condit. It's really a flaw in the scoring system I guess but whatever.

I feel like I didnt even watch a fight. more like a game of tag.

 

Originally Posted by Bonestein

I think so too, but they don't score the fight on the whole, they do it by round, and the first 3 rounds could have gone to Diaz, or they could have gone to Condit. It's really a flaw in the scoring system I guess but whatever.

The flaw in the scoring system is that they don't use the whole 10 points that a "10 point must" system has. Close rounds should be scored 10-9 or 10-8 and dominant rounds should be scored more heavily so that you can't just win three borderline rounds, get dominated in two and still win the fight. I've had this argument ever since I started watching boxing thirty years ago. Imagine if baseball innings were scored like MMA and boxing...

I've never seen a fighter who ran away like that get so much love from the judges. Condit picked it up in rounds 3 and 4 but no way in hell won round 1, 2 or 5 IMO. It was close but should have been exactly 49-48 Diaz if you actually watched the fight.

Glad Carlos won, good for him!! And I can't wait till someone knocks one of the Diaz brothers the FUCK out just to stop their cockiness. And Roy is one of the toughest ever, but as said before, no more UFC fights please. Clock burner...

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

The flaw in the scoring system is that they don't use the whole 10 points that a "10 point must" system has. Close rounds should be scored 10-9 or 10-8 and dominant rounds should be scored more heavily so that you can't just win three borderline rounds, get dominated in two and still win the fight. I've had this argument ever since I started watching boxing thirty years ago. Imagine if baseball innings were scored like MMA and boxing...

I should have been more clear because I completely agree. It's stupid that there's not more 10-8 rounds in MMA, because you're right, it's way too easy to squeak out 2 rounds and get dominated in 1 round and win the 3 round fight. When it came up before the fight that Cecil Peoples was one of the judges I got a sick feeling though. It's become completely cliche but you just can't leave it in the hands of the judges because MMA judging is terribad.

well, i'm glad condit won but I had diaz taking the first 3 and condit with the 4th and draw for the 5th, didn't look like diaz did much damage on the ground. however, I can see draws by random judges in the first 3 rounds as well.

I think diaz won but I was diappointed with him after the 3rd and don't feel bad for him losing subsequently.

 

Originally Posted by satchmo

well, i'm glad condit won but I had diaz taking the first 3 and condit with the 4th and draw for the 5th, didn't look like diaz did much damage on the ground. however, I can see draws by random judges in the first 3 rounds as well.

I think diaz won but I was diappointed with him after the 3rd and don't feel bad for him losing subsequently.

IMO rounds 3 and 4 (for Condit) were by far the easiest rounds to score in the fight. I'm not sure how anyone could give Diaz the 3rd.

 

Originally Posted by CardXFactor

Weak leg checks made up about 90 of Condit's "strikes". That is why giving the decision to someone who had 0% aggression, octagon control, or pressure is mind boggling. It's more upsetting that this shit happens all the time.

Is it really octagon control if your goal is to push your opponent into a corner and punish him, yet everytime you get him there he escapes almost immediately?

And regarding the effectiveness of Condit's strikes, I will be surprised if the stats don't show Condit landing more significant strikes than Nick.

Koscheck vs Nick Diaz

1 time...the shit talking up to the fight could be EPIC

Wow... I don't even...

Round 3 is the first time I have ever seen Diaz start backing up. He knew nothing he was doing was working. Condit had total control of rounds 3 and 4... as for control...

"Is it really octagon control if your goal is to push your opponent into a corner and punish him, yet everytime you get him there he escapes almost immediately?"

Pretty much this...

 

Originally Posted by BigJohn804

Round 3 is the first time I have ever seen Diaz start backing up. He knew nothing he was doing was working. Condit had total control of rounds 3 and 4... as for control...

"Is it really octagon control if your goal is to push your opponent into a corner and punish him, yet everytime you get him there he escapes almost immediately?"

Pretty much this...

And to prove how bad MMA judging can be, the two judges who scored the fight 49-46 gave the 3rd round to Diaz.

Thought Diaz clearly won 2,5 Condit clearly won 3,4 round 1 was close and those usually goes to the aggressor.

Condit neutralized Nick with leg kicks, equal reach advantage and superior movement. Nick didn't adapt and Condit led him around and figured him out because he is smarter.

 

Originally Posted by Aces_Up

IMO rounds 3 and 4 (for Condit) were by far the easiest rounds to score in the fight. I'm not sure how anyone could give Diaz the 3rd.

Is it really octagon control if your goal is to push your opponent into a corner and punish him, yet everytime you get him there he escapes almost immediately?

And regarding the effectiveness of Condit's strikes, I will be surprised if the stats don't show Condit landing more significant strikes than Nick.

Well based on Fightmetric, I was wrong on round 3. They gave it to Condit in a close round. They have round 4 being the most dominant round of the fight.

They do however have Condit outlanding Diaz 151-105 in significant strikes.