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Not sure what games you could be talking about besides Notre Dame and Virginia Tech. And even then, I'd argue Notre Dame was more a product of ND's epic incompetence at the end of that game...which I suppose is a kind of luck, but it's not really the same as chucking up a Hail Mary at the end of a game and somehow coming up with it. And when calculating games decided by luck, don't forget that UM got semi-robbed by the officials against Iowa.
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Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
Not sure what games you could be talking about besides Notre Dame and Virginia Tech. And even then, I'd argue Notre Dame was more a product of ND's epic incompetence at the end of that game...which I suppose is a kind of luck, but it's not really the same as chucking up a Hail Mary at the end of a game and somehow coming up with it. And when calculating games decided by luck, don't forget that UM got semi-robbed by the officials against Iowa.
However you want to break it down they were in spots where they lose a huge majority of the time and they pulled it it out. I'm not saying I think they're a bad team. Just as a fan of college football It seems like I recall them pulling out a bunch of games I thought they were beat in. -
Edited By: Lord Supremo Aug 3rd, 2012 at 04:41 AMReally? It's hard for me to imagine a 12-1 B1G champion Michigan that only lost to Alabama would ever not finish top 2 unless there were 2 undefeated teams to choose from...and Michigan would probably get in ahead of an undefeated ACC team too, unless Alabama was #1 imo.Originally Posted by orgnalsooners
Btw, I am crossing off Michigan for a chance to win it all b/c I don't think they can beat Bama to start off the year on neutral site and they will fall to 14 or so and cant get back to the top even by running the tbls. One thing is pretty clear , USC or Oregon will be playin for the title
I know you're not trying to bash, but I'm looking at the schedule from last year now and I'm still baffled by what games (besides ND and the Sugar Bowl) you could be talking about. Help me out?Originally Posted by XXEDPXX
However you want to break it down they were in spots where they lose a huge majority of the time and they pulled it it out. I'm not saying I think they're a bad team. Just as a fan of college football It seems like I recall them pulling out a bunch of games I thought they were beat in.
vs. Western Michigan W 34-10
vs. Notre Dame W 35-31
vs. Eastern Michigan W 31-3
vs. San Diego St. W 28-7
vs. Minnesota W 58-0
@ Northwestern W 42-24
@ Michigan St. L 28-14
vs. Purdue W 36-14
@ Iowa L 24-16
@ Illinois W 31-14
vs. Nebraska W 45-17
vs. Ohio St. W 40-34.
vs. Virginia Tech W 23-20 (OT)
The only one of those wins that was even competitive was Ohio State...I suppose the Northwestern and Nebraska games were competitive at halftime, but those turned into blowouts in which Mich was obv the better team. I really think you must be superimposing the memory of Virginia Tech/MSU/ND games onto others games. -
wait ... What? Irrelevant? National Champion irrelevant? I dont think so
Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
except the national champion is coming out of the Pac-12 this year...
And the "champions bowl" is going to be the Rose Bowl minus tradition - which is to say, totally irrelevant - given that it doesn't start until after the playoffs are already in place. I mean, if the SEC and Big 12 are going to "dominate the sport" as you say, the first iteration of the Champions Bowl will probably feature the SEC no. 3 vs. the Big 12 no. 2 (or vice versa)...which doesn't really sound very much like a bowl between champions at all. -
GL
Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
Really? It's hard for me to imagine a 12-1 B1G champion Michigan that only lost to Alabama would ever not finish top 2 unless there were 2 undefeated teams to choose from...and Michigan would probably get in ahead of an undefeated ACC team too, unless Alabama was #1 imo.
No, I don't think they could recover and that's if they ran the tables. A lot of things would have to fall into place for Michigan to get that chance over a 1 loss Sec team and I think Ore/USC winner runs regular season table. That is excluding a big 12 team running the tbl which would also knock Michigan out; furthermore, if Michigan loses handily to Bama which is entirely possible they could move down to as low as 15-17 and that would be impossible to recover from
I know you're not trying to bash, but I'm looking at the schedule from last year now and I'm still baffled by what games (besides ND and the Sugar Bowl) you could be talking about. Help me out?
vs. Western Michigan W 34-10
vs. Notre Dame W 35-31
vs. Eastern Michigan W 31-3
vs. San Diego St. W 28-7
vs. Minnesota W 58-0
@ Northwestern W 42-24
@ Michigan St. L 28-14
vs. Purdue W 36-14
@ Iowa L 24-16
@ Illinois W 31-14
vs. Nebraska W 45-17
vs. Ohio St. W 40-34.
vs. Virginia Tech W 23-20 (OT)
The only one of those wins that was even competitive was Ohio State...I suppose the Northwestern and Nebraska games were competitive at halftime, but those turned into blowouts in which Mich was obv the better team. I really think you must be superimposing the memory of Virginia Tech/MSU/ND games onto others games. -
I mean, obviously I don't expect Michigan to beat Alabama or to run the table after that game, but if we did I think we'd clearly get into the NCG, unless the 2 of the SEC/Big 12/Pac 12 produce undefeated champions. After all, the reason most people are giving for not having Michigan be top 10 is our schedule is too tough.
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Florida at home if you consider home being in Florida.
Originally Posted by kellykip
Georgia got an extremely favorable schedule: at South Carolina easily their toughest game. Got Florida at home, and even the ones that could be slightly tricky (Vandy, Tennessee, G-Tech) are all at home as well.
give them an undefeated reg season and the still face the west champ! lol yeah at home. i know i know. but no field will help them against the west champion.
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I remember the first time I saw LSU in the redzone.
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Ah - my bad; don't know why that slipped my mind
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I don't think a 1 loss Mich team would ever be above a 1 lose big12/SEC/Pac 12 team. Especially since the BCS computers love the Big12/SEC
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LOL, UGA/Florida is a game played in Jacksonville every year. We may get to wear home jerseys though, try again. Having said that, the schedule is favorable. But don't be surprised if we have the best defense in the country this year lead by the beast that is #29 Jarvis Jones.
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Bold statement considering the SEC has won 8 of 14 National Championships in the BCS era. The Big 12 has 2. The Pac10/12 has 2. The ACC has 2 if you count Miami as an ACC team.
Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd
part of the deal with the new bowl (which will end u being a fairly massive moment in CFB history, IMO) is the Big 12 has to get back to having a championship game, so expansion is imminent. FSU might not make it in til 2014 due to some red tape and other BS, but they are a lock. GT is talking to both the B1G and the Big 12 right now, Clemson was thought to be in but now looks like they won't be, Louisville is always waiting for bid. Virginia Tech is going SEC along with NC St. or UNC
stick around and see brah
clearly the SEC is better and will very likely stay better for some time, but in the present/near future the Big 12 will be the #2 by a wide margin, and the majority of the national titles for the near future will come from both, just like it has for the last dozen. they are working together to make it happen, and have all the programs (and tv contracts) to make it so.
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Does the +1 thing start this year?
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http://www.pocketfives.com/f13/bcs-c...2014-a-663166/
Originally Posted by Jaybone2315
Does the +1 thing start this year?
I dont follow college that much obv.
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If USC doesn't find themselves at 11-1 or 12-0 playing in the conference championship for a bid for the National Championship game they did something wrong. They host Oregon, Cal and Notre Dame and there 2 somewhat difficult road trips are a semi rebuilding Stanford program and Washington who's defense is still more then suspect. You take the highest rated QB this year with the weapons they have and that somewhat easy schedule and it would be sad if they are not playing for the bid in November.
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Highest rated QB in what?
Originally Posted by hooperzl
If USC doesn't find themselves at 11-1 or 12-0 playing in the conference championship for a bid for the National Championship game they did something wrong. They host Oregon, Cal and Notre Dame and there 2 somewhat difficult road trips are a semi rebuilding Stanford program and Washington who's defense is still more then suspect. You take the highest rated QB this year with the weapons they have and that somewhat easy schedule and it would be sad if they are not playing for the bid in November.
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Highest chances of being drafted #1 in the NFL Draft. As well as a top 3 pre-season Heisman guy if not #1.
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Edited By: TheWacoKidd Aug 3rd, 2012 at 08:48 PMso the Big 12 has just as many as the other conferences in the last dozen years, just like I said? lol. also, UT and OU have both played for national titles and lost, and OSU was arguably snubbed for a shot last year (I don't agree, but some do)Originally Posted by Nickc011
Bold statement considering the SEC has won 8 of 14 National Championships in the BCS era. The Big 12 has 2. The Pac10/12 has 2. The ACC has 2 if you count Miami as an ACC team.
I think its safe to say that the SEC and the Sun Belt conference will dominate going forward, and win the majority of national titles.
I never said we would be equal, in fact I said just the opposite in another post of mine - I think the SEC will continue to dominate and to ship the majority of titles. however, I also happen to think the gap between the #2 and #3 conference will widen, and the Big 12 will emerge as the clear 2nd power conference. feel free to disagree, but you will feel silly for making the post you just did in about 5-10 years.
and we are adding FSU and other good schools, and programs like OSU are becoming national title contenders (natural gas money FTW)
I lumped us in with the SEC because we are clearly working on a plan to dominate college football together. some of you still have no idea how big a deal this Champions Bowl is, obviously. -
preseason rankings are fun, and means the season is coming up, but that's about it. almost 1/3 (8 if i counted right) of last years PS top 25 finished unranked. that includes 2 PS top 10 teams(# 6 FSU and #8 Tex A&M). The PS #1 team, Okla. finished 16th.
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Edited By: Randers Aug 4th, 2012 at 02:40 AMThe cpu's 'Love' the conferences that do the best OOC.Originally Posted by jdbunchOSU
I don't think a 1 loss Mich team would ever be above a 1 lose big12/SEC/Pac 12 team. Especially since the BCS computers love the Big12/SEC
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Yeah, I don't disagree with this, I think the B1G has a good chance of being reaaaalllllyyyyy weak this year. All the good teams have really big question marks, definitely a decent chance the best team has like 3 losses or smth.
Originally Posted by Shaaarrrp
Doubt the top 3 of the big 10 finish much/if any above the top 3 ACC.
I'm sure we're terrified.........Originally Posted by B_O_K_E
LOL @ Michigan..The Buckeyes entire season is practice for the Michigan game. Its tOSU's only meaningful game this year. GL











