Yes, these unelected officials, who are some of the most brilliant people in this country, are less equipped to deal with abortion laws compared to people like Akin and religious nutsos. As much as I disagree with Scalia and Alito, these guys can construct a legal argument cause they're really fucking smart.

He also had the worst two lines of the night with, "We don't think that unelected judges should make this decision, that people through their elected representatives in reaching a consensus in society through the democratic process should make this determination", and "I know you’re under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground".

and Biden's reply to "the words dont always come out right" with "but atleast I always say what I mean" was pretty solid as well.

Free condoms won't do shit to curb abortion rates. Lets not kid ourselves here. Its not like the hurdle keeping kids from using protection is "oh geez; the price of condoms is so high; let's just take a chance here" and its not like there isn't easy access to them. Just look at jay one and apply his mindset to millions of teenagers

 

Originally Posted by Camz

Free condoms won't do shit to curb abortion rates. Lets not kid ourselves here. Its not like the hurdle keeping kids from using protection is "oh geez; the price of condoms is so high; let's just take a chance here" and its not like there isn't easy access to them. Just look at jaybone and apply his mindset to millions of teenagers

https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/24334.aspx#.UG7SVt4U2Cs.facebook


"Providing birth control to women at no cost substantially reduced unplanned pregnancies and cut abortion rates by a range of 62-78 percent compared to the national rate, a new study shows."

for neek

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...d-open/1420805

 

Originally Posted by gamma21

So the dude wasn't there, but somehow he happens to know that Ryan didn't do anything?

He was there for 15 minutes when there were no patrons and the dishes were already cleaned, you think he did something?

15 minutes at a soup kitchen. I wonder if that is a photo op or to help people hmmm

Don't get me wrong, nothing makes me madder than giving food to poor people

 

Originally Posted by Neeek

https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/24334.aspx#.UG7SVt4U2Cs.facebook


"Providing birth control to women at no cost substantially reduced unplanned pregnancies and cut abortion rates by a range of 62-78 percent compared to the national rate, a new study shows."

that's nice but i was talking about condoms and that article does nothing to mention condoms.

 

Originally Posted by Camz

that's nice but i was talking about condoms and that article does nothing to mention condoms.

Your post essentially said that you find it ridiculous that the cost of condoms (aka contraception) would in any way be prohibitive enough to affect the rate of abortions. Though not specifically studying condoms, the article I posted shows that when contraception is free, abortion rates go down. I think the article is quite relevant to your claims, even if we ignore the fact that condoms are, fuck for fuck, one of the more expensive forms of contraception.

EDIT - NM, I missed part of your point, I think. condoms do suck, and not just because of the price. carry on.

my point was that people choose not to wear condoms not because of price but because they're either lazy, irresponsible, or don't like the way it feels. While that study does show the drop in rates, notice the methods used: apply it and fuhgetaboutit: IUDs and nuva ring types, that require basically no upkeep/"work" like condoms do and it provides the natural feeling.

And, as far as the cost...well that all depends on the amount of sexual activity. I liken it to live games being pot raked as opposed to a time rake. The more you fuck, or the more pots you play, you'd be more suited for the IUD/nuvas, or time rake. The less you fuck, or the less pots you play, will have you better suited for condoms and time rake.

and i love how all personal responsibility is thrown out the window wrt to govt providing people contraception.

Now ins companies providing it is a diff story

 

Originally Posted by littleze

Ryan talked to some homeless people outside, they didn't have voter ID so he left.

How much you want to bet the guy they quoted in the story is voting Obama?

Good luck finding anyone near a soup kitchen voting for Romney.

hard to watch. cringeworhty when they are throwing on the aprons. "oh, lets wash this pan that is already clean!"

It's soooooooooooo bad. If someone wasnt fired for this Id be amazed.

Line that got me was just before that, "I'm going to water them"

They are dishes, not a plant

Paul Ryan going to a soup kitchen is a real big deal!