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  1. Another thing to remember is that the favorite is usually inflated. A top 10 team vs a doormat should be higher than 6.5 so take that fwiw.
     
  2. My good buddy has some bets placed already. Some that I dont think are necessarily smart.
    Would love OTs thoughts.

    S. Carolina -6.5
    Wazzu +12.5
    Stanford -26
    Navy +15.5
    W. Virginia -25
    Illinois -10.5
    Iowa st. +1.5


    Wug?
  3. [QUOTE=eagleseye13;6994613]my buddy and I have 500 on Michigan..waiting for it to hit +14 then will buy a pt..he was adamant the Wolverines cover at +14..only taking if it gets that high..

    going to the UW opener against Northern Iowa..should be a rocking drunk time..if anyone in Madison wants to meet up and drink before PM me. Got friends from chicago coming in for the UW game and Brewers game Sunday. UW tickets cost more than Brewers tickets..[/QUOTE]

    ldo have fun
     
  4. The lines that stick out the most to me are

    Georgia Tech +7.5
    UNLV +8.5
    Ball State -3.5
    Buffalo +38
    Ohio State -23
    Washington State +13

    GL (I just gave myself the kiss of death IMO)
  5.  
    Originally Posted by USCphildo View Post

    South Carolina had 367 yards of offense last year vs Vanderbilt. Vandy had 77. -6.5 is a joke. i bet big on Carolina.


    If anything this is a reason to take Vanderbilt as home dogs that were blown out by a team the year before cover more than not.
  6.  
    Originally Posted by DaVols View Post

    The lines that stick out the most to me are

    Georgia Tech +7.5
    UNLV +8.5
    Ball State -3.5
    Buffalo +38
    Ohio State -23
    Washington State +13

    GL (I just gave myself the kiss of death IMO)

    You basically just picked my tread contest picks.

    Fuck yo kiss of death man. Back to the drawing board.
  7.  
    Originally Posted by orgnalsooners View Post

    Carolina is really strong on paper but I am concerned about health of Lattimore. It's nice to look at stats from prev years but they are hardly conclusive on what's to become. Rodgers wasn't playing QB for Vandy yet and Vandy got a ton better as the year went on.

    Lattimore's got a stable behind him.

    Shaw wasn't playing QB for Carolina yet either, and Carolina got a ton better as the year went on too.
  8. Sbeezy's picks (YTD 0-0):

    Ball State/EMU Under 58.5
    BYU/WashSt. Under 65
    Duke/FloridaIntl Under 52.5
    Ohio +6
    Northern Illinois +10
    NIU/Iowa Under 50
  9. Cowherd has South Carolina at number 6, lots of love for the Cocks in the national media. I see them as an 8-4 team this year or possibly worse if Vandy upsets them tommorow night. Might be wrong tho, wont be the last time if so. Lattimore is possibly the most overrated player in the country, he will not be the best back on the field tommorow night that is for sure(He has a career 4.9 rushing average which is the national average for backs). He might put up better numbers tho since So Carolina defense is much better than Vandys is
    Edited By: The Smoking Pimp Aug 29th, 2012 at 10:55 PM
  10.  
    Originally Posted by The Smoking Pimp View Post

    Cowherd has South Carolina at number 6, lots of love for the Cocks in the national media. I see them as an 8-4 team this year or possibly worse if Vandy upsets them tommorow night. Might be wrong tho, wont be the last time if so. Lattimore is possibly the most overrated player in the country, he will not be the best back on the field tommorow night that is for sure(He has a career 4.9 rushing average which is the national average for backs). He might put up better numbers tho since So Carolina defense is much better than Vandys is

    You been drinking? Value in anything Cowherd says is lolz. Than you state that Lattimore will put up better numbers cause their defense is better than Vandy's? Da fuck did I just read.
     
  11. I hope this is a level by u Boke but here goes. South Carolina has a much better defense than Vanderbilt does and therefore Lattimore is liable to put up better numbers tommorow night vs a weak defensive front of Vandy than Stacy is versus a top notch defensive front in South Carolina. Even though I think Stacy is the better back. I hope for your sake I was getting leveled by you.
    Edited By: The Smoking Pimp Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:30 AM
  12. Half a level, but yea that explanation helped. Thanks.
     
  13. Look, I think the SEC is over-inflated more than most ppl, but there is no denying they produce the best defensive linemen of late and have most of the great defenses recently. Saying that Lattimore is average because he has a 4.9 avg is an incredibly dumbed-down opinion. His avg may be among the national avg, but the avg back playing in the SEC would not get anywhere near 4.9ypc. If you have a ton of carries and are averaging 5 yds/carry in the SEC, you are doing a damned good job.

    Look at LaMichael James, there are some on this board who soiled their shorts everytime he touched the ball. But in the 2 games he played against SEC defenses he averaged 3.3 ypc on 31 carries.

    Whether or not Lattimore has recovered fully from his knee injury is another story. But if you look how he ran against the best teams on TV instead of on paper, there is no denying he is a very talented player.
    Edited By: Tread Aug 30th, 2012 at 02:19 AM
  14.  
    Originally Posted by The Smoking Pimp View Post

    Even though I think Stacy is the better back.

    ...
    Edited By: USCphildo Aug 30th, 2012 at 02:25 AM
  15. nebraska covers -20, southern miss beat writer watching practice was on radio saying its so bad they are going to rotate 2 qb's which we all know means you have no qb's. at least one of them is playing first college game ever. offense will not do anything. defense will wear out. nebraska has veterans. easy blowout
    Edited By: DRock Aug 30th, 2012 at 02:38 AM
  16. Bet lunch with a guy at work. He gave me Bama straight up against Michigan. He is an ex Tex AM tight end so no clue where his confidence in Michigan is coming from.
  17. probably coming from the fact that UM fitna wax that ass
  18.  
    Originally Posted by DRock View Post

    nebraska covers -20, southern miss beat writer watching practice was on radio saying its so bad they are going to rotate 2 qb's which we all know means you have no qb's. at least one of them is playing first college game ever. offense will not do anything. defense will wear out. nebraska has veterans. easy blowout

    I would go under 52.5 before I would take NU to cover the 20 honestly. I can see a 30-13 type game.
  19. Anyone like Iowa St at home against Tulsa getting a point? ISU really doesn't underachieve since Paul Rhodes has taken over the program. Don't know much about Tulsa other than they had GJ Kinne and a good WR last season.
  20. Northwestern -1 over Syracuse
  21.  
    Originally Posted by mattg1983 View Post

    Bet lunch with a guy at work. He gave me Bama straight up against Michigan. He is an ex Tex AM tight end so no clue where his confidence in Michigan is coming from.

    Sounds like Joey Thomas if I was a betting man
  22. Wazzu cover and over. Easy $
     
  23.  
    Originally Posted by SaulGood View Post

    Wazzu cover and over. Easy $

    I've really taken a hard look at Wazzu but I need to play the wait and see approach. If you forced me to bet this game I'd take the over way before I touched Wazzu. As much as Leach throws the ball he still uses the run quite a bit actually, and Wazzu couldn't run the ball for shit last year. Also, Wazzu's defense was really, really bad last year, and while they return quite a few starters, I'm not sure that's a good thing. I feel like if you bet WSU, you're hoping for a backdoor cover. I do hope I'm wrong because I really like Leach as a coach, and I really like the weapons he has on offense.
    Edited By: Xmas32 Aug 30th, 2012 at 02:23 PM
  24.  
    Originally Posted by BigStack Husker View Post

    Anyone like Iowa St at home against Tulsa getting a point? ISU really doesn't underachieve since Paul Rhodes has taken over the program. Don't know much about Tulsa other than they had GJ Kinne and a good WR last season.

    I think this game is a pass, Iowa State usually doesn't play very well the week before their big game against Iowa. I also don't like Jantz very much at QB. With Tulsa, you've got ex-NU QB Cody Green at the helm, he didn't really show too much when he was at Nebraska, they do have Ja'Terrian Douglas/Thomas as a nice weapon.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by mattg1983 View Post

    Bet lunch with a guy at work. He gave me Bama straight up against Michigan. He is an ex Tex AM tight end so no clue where his confidence in Michigan is coming from.

    Sounds like the guy at work is teh gay and may be putting out vibes for a little butt sex after said lunch date.
    Edited By: ugain2004 Aug 30th, 2012 at 02:53 PM
  26.  
    Originally Posted by The Smoking Pimp View Post

    Even though I think Stacy is the better back.

    are we sure Stacy is even the best back on Vandy? He couldn't beat out Norman as a frosh/soph and only started when Norman got hurt... he also had the benefit of playing with Rodgers and Norman did not
  27. Stacey has a higher career average yards per carry than Lattimore and is surrounded by worse talent. It is my opinion that he is the better back you dont have to agree with it.
    Edited By: The Smoking Pimp Aug 30th, 2012 at 04:41 PM
  28.  
    Originally Posted by DAWS View Post

    are we sure Stacy is even the best back on Vandy? He couldn't beat out Norman as a frosh/soph and only started when Norman got hurt... he also had the benefit of playing with Rodgers and Norman did not


    Darren McFadden and Felix Jones could not beat out Darius Howard at Arkansas for two years, they are in the NFL, he is a bumb. Bad Comparison sir. Often times coaches cannot see the talent like last year took 5 games for Rodgers to get on the field over the dreadful Larry Smith for Vandy
    Edited By: The Smoking Pimp Aug 30th, 2012 at 04:46 PM
  29. Player Att Yds YPC TD

    Stacey 201 1193 5.9 14
    Lattimore 249 1197 4.8 17


    There were their numbers first year as starters. I posted Lattimores freshman numbers because he was worse and banged up last year.
  30.  
    Originally Posted by Tread View Post

    Look, I think the SEC is over-inflated more than most ppl, but there is no denying they produce the best defensive linemen of late and have most of the great defenses recently. Saying that Lattimore is average because he has a 4.9 avg is an incredibly dumbed-down opinion. His avg may be among the national avg, but the avg back playing in the SEC would not get anywhere near 4.9ypc. If you have a ton of carries and are averaging 5 yds/carry in the SEC, you are doing a damned good job.

    Look at LaMichael James, there are some on this board who soiled their shorts everytime he touched the ball. But in the 2 games he played against SEC defenses he averaged 3.3 ypc on 31 carries.
    .

    I agree with your first paragraph, but the LaMichael James comparison isn't a good one. First of all, James actually played 3 games against the SEC (2011 LSU, 2010 Auburn, and 2010 Tennessee, which is the one you forgot) had 47 carries, and averaged 5.0 ypc. So there's that.

    And that goes directly into the point I was going to make before I looked it up and saw that he played Tennessee too...comparing James' numbers against two teams that played in the national championship game to Lattimore's numbers against everybody is a remarkably unfair comparison, for obvious reasons. Lattimore's feasts against teams like Tennessee are counting in his numbers just as much as grindfests against Alabama.

    fwiw, the apples-to-apples comparison between Lattimore and James is that both played Auburn and Tennessee in 2010. Their numbers from those games:

    James vs. Tennessee: 16 carries, 134 yards, 8.4 ypc 1 TD
    James vs. Auburn: 13 carries, 49 yards, 3.8 ypc, 0 TD
    Total: 29 carries, 183 yards, 6.3 ypc, 1 TD

    Lattimore vs. Tennessee: 29 carries, 184 yards, 6.3 ypc, 1 TD,
    Lattimore vs. Auburn: 16 carries, 84 yards, 5.3 ypc, 0 TD
    Total: 45 carries, 272 yards, 6.0 ypc, 1 TD