Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd

is it against the rules?

do other schools do it?

yes and who knows?

that doesn't make it any less outrageous

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

Do all the other students at the school get free "recommended" books?

do all the other students at the school get free 'required' books? no? then why does the answer to your question matter at all?

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

B/c the free "required" books some student-athletes get are part of their scholarship. Very different.

i don't even get what you're trying to say. most students don't have scholarships. students with academic scholarships can typically use that money to buy books, both required and recommended (though a lot of academic scholarships aren't for the full cost of attendance, so it's rare to have extra money, but some scholarships do).

in any case, whether *all the other* students at the school get recommended books for free has zero connection to whether there should be a rule against providing scholarship athletes with those books.

 

Originally Posted by warden

i don't even get what you're trying to say. most students don't have scholarships. students with academic scholarships can typically use that money to buy books, both required and recommended (though a lot of academic scholarships aren't for the full cost of attendance, so it's rare to have extra money, but some scholarships do).

in any case, whether *all the other* students at the school get recommended books for free has zero connection to whether there should be a rule against providing scholarship athletes with those books.

The point is simply that student-athletes shouldn't be receiving any academic benefits from the school that arent afforded to all students. If the scholarships dont cover the books they shouldnt be receiving them. The fact that the NCAA is regulating what athletic scholarships cover is moot in this case. It's not like you can speed and not pay the ticket b/c you feel the speed limit should be higher.

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

Meh. Def the best decision for WVU schedule wise. Awful financially tho. If FSU can't find a suitable replacement WVU is on the hook to cover the total loss in revenue. Not to mention the fee is $500k not $350k. WVU better hope they win their law suit against the Big East or they could really be hurting covering the cost when FSU picks up the likes of Coastal Carolina.... Could be Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Rutgers, Syracuse, or Pitt tho.

whoa dawg, It would be a terrible decision for FSU to pick up CCU, final score would likely be CCU-68 FSU-12

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

How so? There are scholarships and grants that all students can apply for various reasons. I was speaking in terms of the school giving the athletes more than the athletic scholarships provide by giving athletes free books.

Would't it be more fair to compare an athletic scholarship, which is a "full" scholarship, to what the other students at the school receive for a full scholarship? I don't know the answer to that question but it seems to me that would be a more realistic way of looking at whether those students got an advantage over other students.

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

The point is simply that student-athletes shouldn't be receiving any academic benefits from the school that arent afforded to all students.

this makes no sense

academic scholarships are not afforded to "all students" (as dyz pointed out). they are usually given to students who did particularly well in high school (national merit or whatever). those opportunities aren't afford to "all students" any more than athletic scholarships are. in fact, you might say athletic scholarships are even more accessible, as you could walk-on to the team and earn an athletic scholarship (while that is impossible for most of the bigger academic scholarships).

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nebraska's probation: LOL the ncaa. the major point of discussion is that the rule itself is stupid, or at least that the punishment doesn't reflect the spirit of the rule. take your pick.

WV canceling: florida state already negotiated the contract. that's business. everyone can get over it.