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What QB Effects their team/division/conference the most?

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  1. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is online now

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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 6:52pm)

    Just figured I would make the repost that always brings the homers out in droves. The question is simple: which NFL qb's absence affects their team the most, their division the most, their conference the most. This is, of course purely hypothetical.
    Edited By: TiltinShoes Sep 7th, 2011 at 07:12 PM
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 7:07pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 7:10pm) in reply to MyJobisYou

    Any answer other than Peyton Manning is just wrong
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 7:11pm) in reply to whoMikeB

     
    Originally Posted by whoMikeB View Post

    Any answer other than Peyton Manning is just wrong

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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 7:13pm) in reply to whoMikeB

     
    Originally Posted by whoMikeB View Post

    Any answer other than Peyton Manning is just wrong

    +2. rivers or brees are very distant 2nds.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 7:15pm) in reply to marc1313

    if matt stafford stays healthy he very well could affect the division and conference picture A LOT!

    come on lions!
    Edited By: shallowcal Sep 7th, 2011 at 07:15 PM
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 8:32pm) in reply to shallowcal

    http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011...lly-worth.html

    Last year Ryan, Rodgers and Brees led in win probability added ( a component of ESPN's new QBrating) and Manning is far and away the leader in WPA/g over a career.
    Edited By: Randers Sep 7th, 2011 at 08:35 PM
     
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 8:36pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

     
    Originally Posted by TiltinShoes View Post

    Just figured I would make the repost that always brings the homers out in droves. The question is simple: which NFL qb's absence affects their team the most, their division the most, their conference the most. This is, of course purely hypothetical.

    Go back to work and quit making dumb threads...

    I kid I kid...I would say Peyton
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 8:56pm) in reply to astaggs

    Lunch though.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 9:03pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

    John Daly.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 9:07pm) in reply to TINNAL

    Drew Bledsoe...

    but Peyton Manning...
     
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 9:07pm) in reply to cocoa_butter111

    Affect tho.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 9:17pm) in reply to watson5j

    Sam Bradford is a close 2nd to Manning as well. Took a team from 1-15 to 7-9 in one year and should improve on that mark again. He has done it while not improving many parts of the team as well including his WR corp.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 9:17pm) in reply to astaggs

     
    Originally Posted by astaggs View Post

    Go back to work and quit making dumb threads...

    I kid I kid...I would say Peyton

    no really, this is a dumb thread since there cant even be a discussion.

    next time make a thread that says "manning means the most to his team more than any other PLAYER in the nfl, good day"
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 10:04pm) in reply to watson5j

     
    Originally Posted by watson5j View Post

    Affect tho.


    Werd

     
    Originally Posted by Lameass_ View Post

    no really, this is a dumb thread since there cant even be a discussion.

    next time make a thread that says "manning means the most to his team more than any other PLAYER in the nfl, good day"


    I do not disagree. With any of this...
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 10:48pm) in reply to RadCon

     
    Originally Posted by RadCon View Post

    Sam Bradford is a close 2nd to Manning as well. Took a team from 1-15 to 7-9 in one year and should improve on that mark again. He has done it while not improving many parts of the team as well including his WR corp.


    This is a joke right? Even if he is 2nd(which he is not), it isn't a close 2nd at all.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 10:52pm) in reply to Arobinson11

    JaMarcus Russell
     
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 11:23pm) in reply to Arobinson11

     
    Originally Posted by Arobinson11 View Post

    This is a joke right? Even if he is 2nd(which he is not), it isn't a close 2nd at all.

    How is this a joke he was a +6 wins last year which is CRAZY. While I agree Manning is way above anyone else I think Sam is nothing to sneeze at. Also he is only in his second year and his value can only rise. Dont h8
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 11:25pm) in reply to RadCon

    cant wait for bdubs to come back...
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 11:25pm) in reply to RadCon

     
    Originally Posted by RadCon View Post

    How is this a joke he was a +6 wins last year which is CRAZY. While I agree Manning is way above anyone else I think Sam is nothing to sneeze at. Also he is only in his second year and his value can only rise. Dont h8

    HE PLAYS IN THE NFC WEST...Take you god damn homer goggles off and realize this. Ive seen like 3 posts from you and they are all ridiculously homer based. You are the Rams Bdubs, but your not joking around. Pretty incredible that you actually believe the shit you write.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 11:30pm) in reply to whoMikeB

     
    Originally Posted by whoMikeB View Post

    Any answer other than Peyton Manning is just wrong

    This.
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    Sep 7th, 2011 (9/7/2011 11:30pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    Looks official-ish. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2101...for-season.htm

    Really unfortunate for the NFL brand. Always enjoy a good Colts shootout with whoever.
     
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    Sep 8th, 2011 (9/8/2011 12:16am) in reply to sean614

     
    Originally Posted by sean614 View Post

    HE PLAYS IN THE NFC WEST...Take you god damn homer goggles off and realize this. Ive seen like 3 posts from you and they are all ridiculously homer based. You are the Rams Bdubs, but your not joking around. Pretty incredible that you actually believe the shit you write.

    Manning plays in a pretty shitty division as well. Aside from the texans this year there isn't much to say. The Titans and Jags both have good RB's and that is about it. I admit I am a pretty big homer but I think Bradford is that valuable to the rams. If we had Jay Feely (backup) start all year we would win like 1-3 games. Just saying
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    Sep 8th, 2011 (9/8/2011 12:24am) in reply to RadCon

     
    Originally Posted by RadCon View Post

    Manning plays in a pretty shitty division as well. Aside from the texans this year there isn't much to say. The Titans and Jags both have good RB's and that is about it. I admit I am a pretty big homer but I think Bradford is that valuable to the rams. If we had Jay Feely (backup) start all year we would win like 1-3 games. Just saying

    The difference is that I could pick 15 QBs that could have improved the Rams that much, if not more, from one year to the next. There isn't another QB in the league that could take Manning's place and get even close to the same results. We aren't trying to downplay how good Bradford is or anything like that, he just isn't really a great answer for this question.

    Behind Peyton I would go something like:
    Brady
    Brees
    Rivers
    and probably Rodgers
    Edited By: whoMikeB Sep 8th, 2011 at 12:35 AM
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