1. At the moment with all this war going on. Also what is the pay like? Benefits? Do you get like a weekly check, monthly? How much is the signing bonus? I no there has to be a couple of vets here or enlisted.
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  2. I would have to say the Air Force. I guess it would all depend on you mos. No idea about the other stuff.
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  3. im sure there is a local recrutier who would be more than happy to help you out
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    Originally Posted by tommpat2000 View Post

    im sure there is a local recrutier who would be more than happy to help you out

    Oh, they'll def "help" you out. Read before you sign anything, recruiters are shady ass con men.
     
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  5. Depends on what your needs are. Airforce is tougher to get into, i imagine they have less deployment ratio than we do (Marines).. But your jobfield is not guaranteed when you sign the contract i believe. Army is high deployment tempo, they pay bonuses, i dont really reccommend the army unless you like to be gone alot.. Marine Corps guarantees your mos upon signing, we have a decent deployment home ratio.. Get an aviation MOS if you go in the corps, you will thank me later. Are you married? how old are you?
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  6. Pay, benefits, etc is public knowledge. Just google "Military pay chart" It will show you all the base pays. Then there is housing allowances, food allowances, specialty pay, etc. You can choose to be paid monthly or bi-monthly. Signing bonus dependsn on your job, same with reenlistment bonuses.

    In time of war, Coast Guard becomes part of the Navy, which makes it the safest. In general, though, "safe" depends on what job you're in, and not what service you're in. "Navy" sound safe..unless you're a SEAL. Army sounds dangerous, unless you're a cook. Nah mean?

    Let me know if you have any more specific questions or if you just want to talk in general about it. You can always AIM at Cardshark812.
     
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  7. That's not correct Sweetness, you can get a gnt'd job field. I did. It is tougher to get into than any of the others though. Get ready to be pursued by all the other services recruiters 'cause the AF recruiters are never rly desperate for n00bs. Both the AF & Navy are the safest.
    Don't be fooled by the Navy's medical corps though, you'll be a Marine w/out the bad ass uniform.
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  8. if I joined the armed forces what percentage of OT would be banging my wife while I'm gone. and can you please send pictures

    2008 Basic Pay (monthly)

    <TABLE border='"1'><TBODY><TR><TD>Paygrade</TD><TD>&lt;2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-9</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-8</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>3,482.70</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-7</TD><TD>2,421.00</TD><TD>2,642.40</TD><TD>2,743.50</TD><TD>2,877.90</TD><TD>2,982.30</TD><TD>3,162.00</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-6</TD><TD>2,094.00</TD><TD>2,304.00</TD><TD>2,405.70</TD><TD>2,504.40</TD><TD>2,607.60</TD><TD>2,840.10</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-5</TD><TD>1,918.80</TD><TD>2,047.20</TD><TD>2,145.90</TD><TD>2,247.30</TD><TD>2,405.10</TD><TD>2,570.70</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-4</TD><TD>1,758.90</TD><TD>1,848.90</TD><TD>1,949.10</TD><TD>2,047.80</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-3</TD><TD>1,587.90</TD><TD>1,687.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-2</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-1</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-1 w/less than 4 months</TD><TD colSpan=6>1,245.90</TD></TR><TR><TD>Paygrade</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>20</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-9</TD><TD>4,254.60</TD><TD>4,350.90</TD><TD>4,472.40</TD><TD>4,615.50</TD><TD>4,759.20</TD><TD>4,990.50</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-8</TD><TD>3,636.90</TD><TD>3,732.30</TD><TD>3,846.60</TD><TD>3,970.20</TD><TD>4,193.70</TD><TD>4,306.80</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-7</TD><TD>3,263.10</TD><TD>3,443.10</TD><TD>3,592.50</TD><TD>3,694.50</TD><TD>3,803.10</TD><TD>3,845.40</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-6</TD><TD>2,930.40</TD><TD>3,105.00</TD><TD>3,158.70</TD><TD>3,197.70</TD><TD>3,243.30</TD><TD>3,243.30</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-5</TD><TD>2,705.40</TD><TD>2,722.20</TD><TD>2,722.20</TD><TD>2,722.20</TD><TD>2,722.20</TD><TD>2,722.20</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-4</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD><TD>2,135.10</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-3</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD><TD>1,789.80</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-2</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD><TD>1,509.90</TD></TR><TR><TD>E-1</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD><TD>1,347.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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  9. Navy deployment is usually 2 years sea duty, 2 years shore.. Marine Aviation way to go IMO..

    either way, you can make some bank if your married, then you pretty much rate all the extra entitlements, which are the same no matter what service you are in.
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  10. base pay sux, all my good monies come from entitlements

    and if you want to ride a bike for physical training, join the airforce. if your not a physically fit type of dude, Marine Corps probably wont be for you
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  11. I'm not married, nor do havne any kids. I am 21 years old. I don't go to school as of now, and I hate my job. Basically I reallt don't know what I want to do thats why I was thinking of joining the military. I think I kinda am leaning more towards the navy. I no a buddy who did it and he said it is the safest, and he loved it. I just dont want to serve my country, and then get jerked by getting paid shit.
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  12. Like I have no idea what all that means? Whats E-1 and what do all the numbers in bold mean above the salaries.
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  13. E-1 means your pay grade based on rank. the numbers in bold are the years of service you have.
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  14. well i guess you would start at e-1 and move up as you become corporal dick slap.

    the bold numbers on top are number of years. My guess is that you would still be E-1 after 20 years so good luck
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  15. What does that chart mean? I assume that E-1, E-2, etc indicates rank but no idea.
     
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  16. well E stands for enlisted, which is what you would be if you dont have a degree. You go into bootcamp as an E-1, but you being 21 when you go into a recruiter just tell them you want contract PFC if you join (well if you did Marine Corps).. then you automatically are E-2.. You have to wait 6 months in service without getting in trouble, than you are E-3. than depending on performance in Range, Physical Fitness, and work performance will determine how fast you get promoted from their. the numbers at the top are years in service. so right now, im E-6 at 8 years.

    so i make 2840 a month in base pay. but i get 1605 in housing allowance a month, 285 to eat a month and both those are non taxable. Housing allowance fluctuates depending on where you are stationed. when your up for reenlistment, depending on what your jobfield is will be what your bonus is.. For Marine Corps, if you are an Intel enlisted, 50K signing bonuses are a norm (and if you reenlist in iraq or tax free zone, that 50k is tax free otherwise its taxed 28 percent). . my bonus when i reenlist will be 22k but im not gonna make it to a warzone by then, so my shits really gonna be 15k after taxes but still better than nothing.

    what else you want to know
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  17. Sweetness, what's the general route if you join the armed forces with a degree. In other words what kind of work would I do and what kind of money I would make if I joined up. I know they have media positions, cuz I see them on the job boards all the time
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  18. I know you asked Sweetness, but talk to a recruiter about going to OCS in lieu of enlisting.
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  19. depends on what your looking for really. If you had a degree, and wanted to be a commissioned officer, then you would just apply for the program (which would be easy acceptance).. But depending on what branch, would be what they offer. Like Marine Corps doesnt have alot of Officer job fields, and the only guaranteed ones are Pilot and JAG (lawyer).. If you do well in school, you will get your choice though. Public Affairs is a good MOS if you can score it in any branch.. Here in Quantico/Pentagon region, you can clean house on jobs in the civilian sector though, if your looking for a job and are open to relocating. Pentagon area has many many employment opportunites tied to the govt.
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  20. Dolphin13, for you, I'd recommend being an airborne laundry specialist.

    btw, a degree does NOT mean you are going to be an officer. If you do have a 4-year degree and decide to enlist, you come in as an E-4.
     
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  21. BGX was an officer, he could probably give you more inside info on that side of the house, but he was a ground pounder though.

    Im a dumb as fuck enlisted, but the only responsibility for us is to stay in shape, kick ass and take names. I get paid to do that

    Benefits are sweet too. 30 days of annual leave a year, free med and dental.. every holiday is either a 96 or a 72 hour liberty period for free (score). Truth be told the military is the shit, deploying kind of sux if you have a family, but its ok. Your gonna need it to get promoted anyways.

    EDit after reading BGX comment - If you have a degree and go enlisted, imo your making a huge mistake, and in everyones opinion you WILL be making a financial mistake bigtime.

    an O-3 (captain in USMC) at the same amount of time ive put in, makes 2k more than i do just in basic pay, and their housing entitlement is much more.
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  22. what kind of stuff interests you WiredDucks.. Admin type stuff, or mechanical, ground and pound? Are you doing this to get the 4 year check in the box, or do the 20 for pension?

    This shit goes by fast, i hit my 10 year mark in August and i will turn 28 that month as well, so retirement is right around the corner.
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  23. I'm not sure what I want to do if you have an AIM it would be a little easier to discuss. I'm JohnnyBoy855 im on right now. gimme a shout. Youto BGX
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  24. Agreed with Sweetness. You will never get rich in the military, but you can make a pretty good life. The benefits are second-to-none. Having 30 days paid vacation as an 18 year old is unheard of. You work hard in the military, but you get lots of time off, too.
     
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  25. I don't know about the pay/etc, but for the most part, aren't they all &quot;safe&quot; by most standards, at least in staying alive or avoiding serious injuries?

    It seems like if you take the deaths/serious injuries of the war and compare that to the people stationed in Iraq, it's about 1% or so (or am I way off)? So, even if you are in a hell hole, odds are you'll be fine.

    Now, if your special forces/etc, that goes out the window, but it seems like if you like being alive, that can be done.
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  26. I hardly ever post here, i guess some could say i'm a lurker but i feel the need to chime in bc i have ten years in the AF and am still serving. I love my job, C130 crewchief, ya we dont make the best money but i never worry about getting laid off and always know what my next pay check will be.

    AF has always been good to me, once a year i get to fly out to vegas for 15 days, completly paid for, this last time we stayed in the montey carlo. Depending what your job is you dont deploy alot, I've deployed 3 times in ten years and once to england for 60 days. sfsweet!

    I do recomend OTS(officer training school) if you have a degree, great pay, great retirement, but long days and you cant have as much fun as enlisted do.

    Benifits are great, like mentioned above almost all holidays are three day weekends, bonuses are nice, i recieved 28k tax free 5 years ago, trips are good, and the people you meet are great, for the most part.

    One thing about the AF, It is tougher to get into for the reason that we dont want bone heads working on million dollar equipment, dont get me wrong they still slip in but they are limited to a few. PT is a joke, lets face it AF guys dont need to be runnng from bullets we have pilots that do that kind of shit. I think we have to run a mile and a half, do 50 situps, and 50 push ups, once a year.

    Let me know if you have any more questions. Sorry guys if i didnt meet the OT posting requirments, i will try harder next time.

    mike
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  27. yea AF crewchiefs from the C-5, C-17 are the shit, and know how to party too. never met one that didnt like his job. Like i said before, any aviation MOS is the nuts
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  28.  
    Originally Posted by lordxixor101 View Post

    I don't know about the pay/etc, but for the most part, aren't they all &quot;safe&quot; by most standards, at least in staying alive or avoiding serious injuries?

    It seems like if you take the deaths/serious injuries of the war and compare that to the people stationed in Iraq, it's about 1% or so (or am I way off)? So, even if you are in a hell hole, odds are you'll be fine.

    Now, if your special forces/etc, that goes out the window, but it seems like if you like being alive, that can be done.

    lordxixor, you're right about it being around 1% for the most part, but you don't think that's high? I mean, in a year's time, do 10 out of every 1000 people working at Bank of America get killed at work?

    1% is still pretty ridiculously high. In my unit, we had 6 soldiers killed out of the 64 in 2003. In 2005, we lost 9 out of 900 in my battalion. But, we also had 12 amputees and another 50 seriously wounded...
     
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  29.  
    Originally Posted by Sweetness777 View Post

    base pay sux, all my good monies come from entitlements

    and if you want to ride a bike for physical training, join the airforce. if your not a physically fit type of dude, Marine Corps probably wont be for you

    Disagree with the ride a bike staetment. Went through air force bmt. Just as difficult if not more than the army's. Obv not more than the marines but still no cake walk.

    1.5 mile- 11:57
    Push ups 1min- 45
    Sit ups 1 min- 50

    EDIT: Those are minimum requirements to pass at the end of your training
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  30.  
    Originally Posted by zerver View Post


    I hardly ever post here, i guess some could say i'm a lurker but i feel the need to chime in bc i have ten years in the AF and am still serving. I love my job, C130 crewchief, ya we dont make the best money but i never worry about getting laid off and always know what my next pay check will be.

    AF has always been good to me, once a year i get to fly out to vegas for 15 days, completly paid for, this last time we stayed in the montey carlo. Depending what your job is you dont deploy alot, I've deployed 3 times in ten years and once to england for 60 days. sfsweet!

    I do recomend OTS(officer training school) if you have a degree, great pay, great retirement, but long days and you cant have as much fun as enlisted do.

    Benifits are great, like mentioned above almost all holidays are three day weekends, bonuses are nice, i recieved 28k tax free 5 years ago, trips are good, and the people you meet are great, for the most part.

    One thing about the AF, It is tougher to get into for the reason that we dont want bone heads working on million dollar equipment, dont get me wrong they still slip in but they are limited to a few. PT is a joke, lets face it AF guys dont need to be runnng from bullets we have pilots that do that kind of shit. I think we have to run a mile and a half, do 50 situps, and 50 push ups, once a year.

    Let me know if you have any more questions. Sorry guys if i didnt meet the OT posting requirments, i will try harder next time.

    mike

    zerver I dont think you realize how close to or better than that is than the army.
    army runs 2 miles in under 15 min, has 2 min to do 60 pushups and 2 min to do 60 situps.
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