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  1. I talked to a kid today that anonymously donated one of his kidneys, simply because he felt it was the right thing to do. The procedure was over the summer, in between years of school (took him a couple months to recover).

    There is about a 1:5-10k chance that you die during the procedure.
    After donating the kidney, you are at no increased risk of death or renal failure during your lifetime (assuming you don't get a kidney tumor, or destroy one in a car wreck, where the other would come in handy).

    Given these facts, what would it take for you to donate one? Family member? Cousin? Friend? Friend's family member? what is the cutoff for you?

    I think my threshold is signfiicantly lower than the population, to the point where I would entertain the idea of volunteering one in the near future.

    On a side note (mostly for dyz), why can't we sell our kidneys? the free market could bring a pretty hefty price, I imagine. How much would you be wiling to sell one for?
    Edited By: Neeek Oct 12th, 2011 at 01:45 AM
  2. family or close friend
     
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  4. Tree Fiddy
  5.  
    Originally Posted by resilient View Post

    family or close friend

    yep
  6.  
    Originally Posted by resilient View Post

    family or close friend

    This- immediate family member without even a 2nd thought. Close friend almost definitely.

    Have a lot of respect for people who are as selfless as that kid.
  7. seven pounds
  8. someone else's kidney
  9. I would have to imagine that mine is so damaged at this point that it wouldn't help anybody. Not really much of a decision when you drink like a fish like I do.

    Can I get a wut's up from the drunks?!?!?!?!??!
     
  10. Id be willing to do it for anyone that really needed it, kinda has me thinking i should do it, but thats not something you make an impulse decision on.

    I think we should be able to sell our kidneys or anything else we could live a normal life without that could help someone else. But I think the reason why we arent allowed are because the pharmaceutical companies/doctors/anyone that makes money off of transplants etc. have something to say about that private market you speak of.
    Edited By: Mikey Babes Oct 12th, 2011 at 02:15 AM
  11. I would do it for my cat in a second..

    others not so fast. They would have to pay me pretty good.. like 20K ish or so
  12. Person in need - "Hey, I need a kidney."

    Me - "And I need a blowjob from Christy Turlington."



    Seriously, family or close friend... random person, I dunno...I'm just now thinking of becoming an organ donor actually.
  13. 45k tax free
     
  14.  
    Originally Posted by Pckt Bullets View Post

    I would have to imagine that mine is so damaged at this point that it wouldn't help anybody. Not really much of a decision when you drink like a fish like I do.

    Can I get a wut's up from the drunks?!?!?!?!??!

    Between the drinking, the chemo, and the painkillers, you don't want any of me. I am an organ donor, take whatever you can use.
  15.  
    Originally Posted by Mikey Babes View Post

    Id be willing to do it for anyone that really needed it, kinda has me thinking i should do it, but thats not something you make an impulse decision on.

    I mean, there are a shit ton of people that really need them. there are like 500k people on chronic dialysis right now (dialysis sucks the life out of you, and destroys your heart/blood vessels slowly). I would be surprised if I ever do it myself, but I have no idea why. there are a couple thousand live kidney donations a year, but the vast majority are friends/family. only a few places have anonymous donor programs, and I don't think it happens much at all.

    why must it be a family member for everyone to do it, if the impact on them is so minor comparatively?
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  16. Also, cue the kidney blocker 5000.
  17. Family, family friends, neighbors, all of the above no doubt.

    Would entertain the idea of volunteering too. I don't know what would push me over the edge to actually do it instead of saying I would do it, but wouldn't have a problem giving it up for someone I didn't know who was in need.
  18. the kid I know that did it got a letter from the recipient. The guy was like in his mid 30s and had a genetic kidney disorder. He had 2 kids and a wife, and was basically given at least 10 years of his life back.

    I should add that kidneys taken from family members generally match better (your immune system will recognize someone else's organ is foreign - like a bacteria - and attack it). For this reason, non-family kidneys last on average 10 years or so (family members kidneys average 20 years), but can be much much longer or much much shorter depending on luck, how well they take their immunosuppressants, and lots of other factors. It probably also has a lot to do with the fact that the average recipient has been on dialysis for a whole bunch of years, so they are usually pretty damn sick by the time they get one.
    Edited By: Neeek Oct 12th, 2011 at 02:34 AM
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  19. I'd wisper sweet nothings in your ear as you die.
  20. Family or good friend...that's pretty much it.

    Sucks for those that need one, but 1:5-10K is actually kinda high...and I'm not ready to die.
    Edited By: JRoth15 Oct 12th, 2011 at 03:02 AM
  21. family member or 10 million dollars
  22.  
    Originally Posted by Cmoney3 View Post

    family member or 10 million dollars

    This is about right.
  23.  
    Originally Posted by Neeek View Post


    On a side note (mostly for dyz), why can't we sell our kidneys? the free market could bring a pretty hefty price, I imagine. How much would you be wiling to sell one for?

    the obvious answer is that it gives the rich an advantage and most see organ transplants as something too important for wealth to be the deciding factor. whether it's a free market or not, the rich have a big advantage in getting the kidney, though. Through connections, bribery, black markets, the rich get a disproportionate number of organ donations. There are probably other health related causes for that as well.

    The system doesn't seem very good now, but I don't know that a free market would be better. It would eliminate the organ going to the patient who it stands to benefit the most. It's also just a really uncomfortable thought that the poor in this country would be selling their organs to the rich. It would be amusing, though, to read the the OT threads of "why do we need (insert social program), they have 2 kidneys don't they?" I don't know the health risks (I'm assuming there are more than just the risk of immediate death), but it seems like a dumb decision to sell off future health for any reasonable amount of money. What would the minimum age to sell be? 18 is way too young, even 21 seems too young.

    there should be some incentives provided for people to be organ donors, though. It should at least be the default that everyone is an organ donor unless they opt out. It's insane that there are X thousands of people on organ transplant lists and healthy organs are buried everyday.
    Edited By: keylight Oct 12th, 2011 at 03:07 AM
  24.  
    Originally Posted by keylight View Post

    the obvious answer is that it gives the rich an advantage and most see organ transplants as something too important for wealth to be the deciding factor.

    They should have an advantage. They've been more successful in life and deserve it more.
  25. family member, close friend, random kid that needs it and it will def help, $200k
  26.  
    Originally Posted by Neeek View Post

    On a side note (mostly for dyz), why can't we sell our kidneys? the free market could bring a pretty hefty price, I imagine. How much would you be wiling to sell one for?

    i think i remember reading somewhere that it would be $8-10k. obviously even if i heard that, it's an estimate, so who knows.

    it would obviously greatly increase the number of kidneys available. and while there might be some inequality concerns (as those with more money can afford them), it also makes it easier for individuals who don't want to actually donate a kidney to contribute through charity (since i can donate $100 to help someone else buy a kidney instead of having an all-or-nothing type approach).

    and i have no idea how much dialysis costs, but i'd imagine insurance companies and government healthcare programs would take the cost of providing dialysis into account, which might (again, i have no idea how much dialysis costs) make it cost-effective from their perspectives

    btw, market price in iran seems to be about $1200
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by warden View Post

    btw, market price in iran seems to be about $1200

    I think I'm gonna grind kidney transplants - sell both here +$18K, plane ticket to Iran, (2) $1200 kidneys, fly back to USA, sell kidneys for $18K, fly to Iran, new $1200 kidney..... easy game

    Plus, you can take like summers off and stuff.
  28.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post

    I think I'm gonna grind kidney transplants - sell both here +$18K, plane ticket to Iran, (2) $1200 kidneys, fly back to USA, sell kidneys for $18K, fly to Iran, new $1200 kidney..... easy game

    Plus, you can take like summers off and stuff.

    a fine businessman...just don't go hiking?
  29. Family maybe don't have any friends.

    If there was some test to do and I get to choose the recipient than 10k or so

    If it's given to some random than 50k

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