There is no correct answer here.

 

Originally Posted by LeftyMark

I would say that oranges are harder because you have to peel them first. An apple you can just bite with no work at all.

 

Originally Posted by Popperhead

However once half peeled you can just go to town on an orange where as an apple to gotta watch out for the pesky core and seeds

Even with all this information I still gotta go Orange

Most interesting debate in this thread.

I'm going with Oranges, cause they taste better. Plus, orange juice > apple juice.

different requirements. hitting a golf ball is as easy as kicking a soccer ball. just because u can do both doesn't mean u're any good at either of them.

but for the sake of the argument, soccer is harder because:
- golf is more possible to master because age and body shape matter less (anyone >40 can't exactly master soccer anymore)
- soccer is more injury-prone
- lots more unpredictable elements which u have to handle in soccer, with 20 other players in the field, strategies, weather and whatnot
- soccer is a lot more popular/competitive (as in there are more talent pools and competitions therefore u'd have to be extra special to be considered the top)
- you'd have to be FIT to be considered good at soccer

Can this thread die on the table

 

Originally Posted by cream420

the question is which is harder to "pick up"

no, the question was which is harder to "play at the highest level if youre a blind canadian in a wheelchair"

i mean, if were just quoting things that were never said.

 

Originally Posted by saxman

No tougher than any other sport when it comes to basic skill level.

This difference between soccer and other sports is that you must use your feet in order to play the game. Most Americans and Canadians are much more used to using their hands to play sports. Have you ever seen a non athlete try and shoot a basketball, it's pretty pathetic and they are accustomed to using their hands all day every day.

In order to play soccer you have to be able to hit a moving target with either foot while you are also moving and also be able to control the ball when passed to you. Now add the fact that there are players on the other side trying to stop you from completing those tasks. Those are the most basic skills needed in order to play the game. That completely ignores learning any defense. Any less than that and you aren't playing soccer, you are passing the ball.

You claimed that an unathletic person could pick all that up easily, and it just flat out isn't true. The absolute basics are probably much easier for an athlete to pick up, but that isn't what you claimed. Conditioning is only the beginning.

 

Originally Posted by Ozzie

no, the question was which is harder to "play at the highest level if youre a blind canadian in a wheelchair"

i mean, if were just quoting things that were never said.

FWIW he never mentioned it in the original post

 

Originally Posted by Popperhead

LOL @ that Millions of Canadians play hockey and lacrosse the two fastest games on the planet but yes most play with hands only. Soccer has to be the #1 sport played by americans as well if not it's #2

Im not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing in the first part...the LOL throws me off. But the 2nd part can not be true (although its much more popular than I ever thought....especially when they opened an 18,000 seat stadium for it in Chester PA...the shittiest of shit holes in the US. At the time I didn't think there were 18,000 fans in the entire state let alone a shit hole like Chester. However, they sell out every single game. I don't get it). I would think Baseball is played more.

BTW hockey is harder than both by a large margin. In fact football maybe the only tougher team sport.

Completely disagreeing as he says most North americans play sports with hands only if he said americans only i might agree cause they have so many baseball players and what have you but lumping us in with it makes it funny to me cause he obviously knows nothing about Canada every tiny little buttfuck town from coast to coast has an arena

Hockey > Soccer in terms of which is harder

although I will say that using my feet from soccer greatly helped me kick the puck to myself with my skates... but Hockey is THE HARDEST SPORT per skill set needed, by far and away that I have ever played, and I've played almost all of them at some point.

I lettered in Soccer, Basketball, Tennis, and Lacrosse in HS... football was pick up games, and Hockey was rec league.

 

Originally Posted by zander

This is one of the funniest threads in OT in a while. Everyone has the OT "I'm fucking right, you're fucking wrong" mentality and is arguing apples and oranges until blue in the face.

Obviously if you consider putting on a shoe and kicking a ball to be "playing soccer," then it's easy. Of course, any idiot can learn to play chess in 30 seconds too, but there are about 5 guys alive who can beat the world champion in a match. In your desperation to win the argument though, you're comparing the skill set required to tie shoes and kick a ball in any direction to the skill set required to swing a 4-iron (one of the toughest clubs in the bag) and actually loft the ball and hit it straight. Better to compare that 4-iron skill set to launching a 50-yard pass onto the foot of a world-class athlete running a 10.5 second 100m dash between two defenders; then you actually have apples and oranges that are at least somewhat vaguely in the same ball park.

Golf is interesting because we're really only in the first generation of athletes who have treated it as a sport and not just a game. You guys arguing golf would also have to ignore logic and reason and agree that shooting pool is harder than playing soccer, because that's much more comparable to golf. The reason Tiger Woods came out and murdered everyone is that he mastered the skill set AND hit the gym harder than anyone else, so he was able to perform at a level that his competition couldn't reach.

A guy who has a phenomenal soccer skill set but is fat and nonathletic could be one of the best players in your local men's rec league, but that guy is never playing in the MLS, let alone for Barcelona or Brazil. A guy who has a phenomenal golf skill set but is fat and nonathletic can not only make it to the Nationwide tour, they can win majors.





It's harder to play the cue ball off two rails around a stripe and cut a solid into a side pocket at an angle than it is to kick a soccer ball from four feet into an empty net too, that doesn't make the game more difficult to master.

I also tend to laugh at this "golf is tougher because of the mental aspect" thing too. When you're a high-level soccer player, you have millions of people watching you and probably 80,000 of them screaming at the top of their lungs every time you touch the ball, and you have to make split second decisions constantly while running something like 10 miles over the course of an hour and a half. In golf, they pay some guy to tell all the people watching you to shut up so you can think, and they pay some guy to carry your clubs (and beverages and cigarettes), give you advice, and talk with you while you walk something like 5 miles over the course of six hours.

Regardless, this thread is amazing and reaffirms my love for OT. I just generally think that climbing to the top of a bigger mountain is more challenging than climbing a smaller one, and the player pool for golf is much, much smaller than the player pool for soccer.

Out of curiosity, how many of you who answered "golf" think that golf is harder than tennis?

LOL what the fuck was that...!!

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

They play soccer in Canada?

We need something for the poor kids to play

I've played soccer since I was 5 and golf since I was 12. I didn't play soccer for a few years and after 2 games into the season I was back to old form. I've lost it golf wise and never been able to get it back and won't unless I start playing like 2-3 times a week at least. It's golf and it's not even close.

Edit: Just read zander's post which is pretty on point, except I don't think we're talking about being a professional ITT. Of course it's very difficult to become a professional in both, but that's true for anything. I was merely talking about being considered a good player. It's much tougher in golf than it is in soccer.

 

Originally Posted by Jaybone2315

People who are bashing soccer in this thread are funny. You have clearly never played soccer before.

I would take four of you vs just me... and im pretty sure I would win. And I havent played organized soccer in 8 years.

lmaoooo and you said they look like idiots, cmon dont be so fucking dumb

Jesus jaybone needs to get fat again cuz this shit is getting ridiculous.