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  1. About to catch a flight and don't have much time to study these lines harder, but as of now there's only one game I really like this week :

    CLEVELAND (+3) vs. Cincinnati

    On the surface, the Browns look like the same old Browns ... 0-3 and in last place in AFC North. In reality, the Browns are 0-3 but could just as well be 3-0 with a total point differential of -12. In all three games (at TB, KC, at BALT) the Browns led in the second half and the total yards for all three games were pretty even.

    Cincy has been pretty underwhelming in starting 2-1, playing the black-and-blue style that got them to the playoffs last year. The defense is solid, the offense is pretty disappointing. After signing TO and drafting Shipley, it looked like the Bengals passing game could be rejuvenated this season, but Carson Palmer appears to have lost his arm strength and seems slower. Ochocinco is a complentary player, still productive but not the All-Pro WR he was a couple seasons ago. Cedric Benson is a decent featured back and will be the focal point of the offense, but I think the Browns defense matches up pretty well.

    The Cleveland offense seems to have really found something in Peyton Hillis. Hillis was on the rise in Denver a couple seasons ago before Josh McDaniels basically red-shirted him last year. He has found his niche in Cleveland, running with a downhill style that led to his impressive 144 yards/TD line last week in Baltimore. Give credit to newly hired GM Mike Holmgren for grabbing him in the offseason. Seneca Wallace has been decent since taking over for Delhomme, although the Browns should also pound the rock for the most part, occasionally taking a shot deep to Joshua Cribbs.

    Overall, this game feels like a coin flip. The Browns played the Bengals very tough at home last year when Cincy was a much larger favorite. The Browns are improved this season and have a very good chance to get their first win of the season at home on Sunday.
     
  2. Titans over Broncos. Don't know the spread, but Tennessee will destroy it. Moreno is out. I cant put much faith in Orton. CJ will go into beast mode as long as Fisher let's VY throw a little and keep the broncos D honest. (see 2nd half of Titans/Giants)
     
  3. Only comfortable game I see is New England at -1. They almost never lose a primetime game.
  4.  
    Originally Posted by SerlinSteak19 View Post

    Only comfortable game I see is New England at -1. They almost never lose a primetime game.

    last year in New Orleans on MNF?
     
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  5. he didnt say never

    but while we are at it Indy last year
    Edited By: XXEDPXX Oct 1st, 2010 at 07:11 PM
  6. I like CHI +3.5 this week
  7.  
    Originally Posted by shipitthisway View Post

    last year in New Orleans on MNF?

    Comparing last year's Superbowl winner to the Dolphins?
  8. I like Detroit -14 and the Bears -3.5
  9.  
    Originally Posted by SerlinSteak19 View Post

    Comparing last year's Superbowl winner to the Dolphins?

    iirc NO escaped with a miracle win @ NO against miami last year
  10. as a big time cardinal fan im telling you this is a game we lose by 2 tds minimum. we rarely play well on the road when we had kurt warner. we lost breaston for a couple weeks, we are starting 2 undrafted rookies, and a 3rd round rookie alongside fitz.. qb is fucking horrible.. our defense plays a decent if we go against an unexperienced qb. we are way undisciplined, are penalized way to much and are going to have to rely big time on our runnin game this week. im really not seeing how we even come close to competing in this one
  11. as a cincinnati fan i dont hate ur pick but they stilll have some leaks. i think the bengals sqeak out of there w/ a win until the offense proves otherwise. ill say 23-16 bengals. i hope more but until the offense proves otherwise its just hard to say so.
  12.  
    Originally Posted by R_U_Nuts View Post

    I like Detroit -14 and the Bears -3.5

    I'll give ya both of those lines. How much? Hell, I'll even give you Detroit -10 if ya'd like.
     
  13.  
    Originally Posted by Hallettcopta View Post

    iirc NO escaped with a miracle win @ NO against miami last year

    really? i was gonna correct you but it's not even worth my time.
  14. Like giants -3.5

    starting to like the browns.

    Think I like falcons and under

    like texans to cover and under in that game also

    like denver +6.5 and st. louis +1.5 I'm not sure why
    Edited By: AMARTIN1181 Oct 2nd, 2010 at 03:14 AM
  15. Also leaning towards Pitt -2.5 and San Diego -8. Don't have much time for analysis, but I think that the steelers will be able to run the ball, thus hiding Charlie batch. San Diego is a very good 1-2 team, but awful on special teams. I expect them to put up 30+ points and winning easy.
     
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  16. Pitt-1 at home vs Ravens with defense playing lights out qb doesnt matter
    Jets-6 at Bills line is fine but i beleive they make it a statement game here and destroy bills
    Tenn-7 at home vs Broncos line says Tenn destroys to me
    Mia PK at home vs Pats i think this line should be Pats-5 at least therefore somethings up
    SD-8 at home vs Cards for reasons above anti-cards
     
  17.  
    Originally Posted by BigGunX View Post

    I'll give ya both of those lines. How much? Hell, I'll even give you Detroit -10 if ya'd like.

    LOL Those are both supposed to be +.. sorry for my retardedness
  18. 9ers +
    Broncos +
    GMEN -
     
  19. Giants > Bears guaranteed, just throwing that out there
  20. San Diego -8 its a lock. The one good team the cards faced they gave up 41. The bolts are putting up nearly 500 total yards of offense. This game will be a blowout
  21. I was listening to the Simmons-Millman podcast, and he was talking about how much the sharps played on the emotion card when betting Dallas over Houston last week. If his theory is correct, then the bets that should win based on teams that really need a win this week vs. teams coming off emotional highs that may take their foot a little off the pedal are...

    Browns +3, Panthers +13.5, Bills +6, Jaguars +7.5, 49ers +7, Giants -3.5

    I'm going to be watching these games pretty closely to see how the theory holds this week, and I'll look again next week as well.

    That said, I like the Steelers -2.5, Bengals -3, Redskins +5.5 and Seahawks -1.5.

    My upset special: Redskins over Eagles
    Edited By: marinersheep Oct 2nd, 2010 at 06:49 AM
     
  22.  
    Originally Posted by marinersheep View Post

    I was listening to the Simmons-Millman podcast, and he was talking about how much the sharps played on the emotion card when betting Dallas over Houston last week. If his theory is correct, then the bets that should win based on teams that really need a win this week vs. teams coming off emotional highs that may take their foot a little off the pedal are...

    Browns +3, Panthers +13.5, Bills +6, Jaguars +7.5, Giants -3.5

    I'm going to be watching these games pretty closely to see how the theory holds this week, and I'll look again next week as well.

    That said, I like the Steelers -2.5, Bengals -3, Redskins +5.5 and Seahawks -1.5.

    My upset special: Redskins over Eagles

    Isn't part of the emotions thing also contingent on the team being decent? For example, Dallas is a really talented team and obv "needed" the geam more; hence the sharps played them.

    Like the Panthers don't even resemble a football team at this point...I'm not sure whether you can really use that argument for all cases.
  23.  
    Originally Posted by FenwayKing View Post

    Isn't part of the emotions thing also contingent on the team being decent? For example, Dallas is a really talented team and obv "needed" the geam more; hence the sharps played them.

    Like the Panthers don't even resemble a football team at this point...I'm not sure whether you can really use that argument for all cases.

    Yes. I will certainly be looking closest at the Giants and 49ers, who I forgot to add in that post, but have edited to include.

    Edit: Also, it's not like we're picking the Panthers to win here. They have to cover two touchdowns. So while the sharps were picking Dallas at +3, thinking they'd lose a very close game or win outright, I'm curious if the theory can hold to a bad team playing hard enough to at least cover a wide spread.
    Edited By: marinersheep Oct 2nd, 2010 at 06:52 AM
     
  24. can any1 post how they are doing this year? I for one am doing horrible
  25.  
    Originally Posted by marinersheep View Post

    I was listening to the Simmons-Millman podcast, and he was talking about how much the sharps played on the emotion card when betting Dallas over Houston last week. If his theory is correct, then the bets that should win based on teams that really need a win this week vs. teams coming off emotional highs that may take their foot a little off the pedal are...

    Browns +3, Panthers +13.5, Bills +6, Jaguars +7.5, 49ers +7, Giants -3.5

    I'm going to be watching these games pretty closely to see how the theory holds this week, and I'll look again next week as well.

    That said, I like the Steelers -2.5, Bengals -3, Redskins +5.5 and Seahawks -1.5.

    My upset special: Redskins over Eagles

    Come on, do you really think that 1 or 2 weeks is anywhere near the sample needed to figure out whether that theory is correct (an entire season wouldn't even be enough)? Also, I highly doubt many sharps are putting much weight into "emotion."
    I do like the Browns for this week like the op.
    Edited By: gray31 Oct 2nd, 2010 at 07:02 AM
  26. Jets at -4.5 over the Bills. That was the line at Wednesday when I made a parlay bet. Not sure what it is today, but easily a lock.

     
    Originally Posted by shipitthisway View Post

    Also leaning towards Pitt -2.5 and San Diego -8. Don't have much time for analysis, but I think that the steelers will be able to run the ball, thus hiding Charlie batch. San Diego is a very good 1-2 team, but awful on special teams. I expect them to put up 30+ points and winning easy.

    Like your thoughts on this. What makes you sold on the Chargers at this point? They played Jacksonville (my team) and we all know, the Jaguars make everyone's offense look like HOF'ers. I'm not sold on the Chargers yet. I took Pitt at -1.5. Don't want to touch that Chargers game. I also see everyone picking the Fins as a lock or as a very confident pick. To everyone that did, would it be different if it was in Foxboro on MNF?
  27. 23-24-1 ATS so far.

     
    Originally Posted by gray31 View Post

    Come on, do you really think that 1 or 2 weeks is anywhere near the sample needed to figure out whether that theory is correct (an entire season wouldn't even be enough)? Also, I highly doubt many sharps are putting much weight into "emotion."
    I do like the Browns for this week like the op.

    So Millman is lying when he says the number of sharps he pointed to put a lot of weight into the Texans coming off two huge emotional highs combined with the Cowboys being desperate for a win?

    And I would say that if over the span of even a few weeks that the theory is proving to be working out, then I'd stick with it.
     
  28.  
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post

    can any1 post how they are doing this year? I for one am doing horrible

    Nearly 60% against the spread and about 70% with pick em's.

    I haven't won a Sunday or Monday night game against the spread. Therefore, I picked the Giants this week and the Pats. AKA, don't go with them.
  29.  
    Originally Posted by marinersheep View Post

    23-24-1 ATS so far.

    So Millman is lying when he says the number of sharps he pointed to put a lot of weight into the Texans coming off two huge emotional highs combined with the Cowboys being desperate for a win?

    And I would say that if over the span of even a few weeks that the theory is proving to be working out, then I'd stick with it.

    I don't think Millman is lying, I do think however that if Millman knew enough to make a shitload of money sportsbetting he would actually do it rather than just writing about the world of sportsbetting. Sure maybe the the fact that Dallas' season was pretty much on the line coupled with the fact that the Texans were coming off two big wins could have been a small factor, however I would say the main reasons the sharps were on Dallas were:
    1. Dallas is a very talented team that was undervalued after looking awful for 2 weeks
    2. Houston was overvalued after getting 2 big wins
    3. The public was all over Houston
  30.  
    Originally Posted by bk3686 View Post

    I also see everyone picking the Fins as a lock or as a very confident pick. To everyone that did, would it be different if it was in Foxboro on MNF?

    This can't be a serious question do you understand the importance of home field?