now dont get me wrong I hate the system as much as anyone and i need it prolly more than most, however we are a capitalist society doctors run a business, insurance companys run a business

they survive by taking in more money than they spendthe same as ANY business McDonalds for example but nobody complains about that yes prices are high in health care but so is EVERYTHING ELSE nobody sits around bitching about the Taco or burger crisis

have we fallen into socialisim where we belive that the goverment should take care of us? as i said in an eariler post that thought is so far from where we started its not even funny

Part 2 did / do unions help or hurt the country i belive they were nessacary because of unscrupulos people that basically had a monoply at a time when employment was needed for most for the good of the country but that they now cause more problems than they are worth

Part 3 what do big corps do that is so wrong Walmart, Microsoft etc they didnt start big they grew big using the rules set up that made USA the most powerful country in the world(notice i dint say greatest) if bashing them are you not really bashing the American way of life?

fell free to add to what i have put or just go off on a tanget talking about things that have little to do with the topics at hand

Damn, well said Cmoney3.

so this post was basically made to suck Artiecat's dick?

1. Healthcare is available to everybody if they want it. The gov should not be involved anymore than they are.

2. Unions may have been needed back in the day but I can't stand them. They def do not help the country.

3. Companies like Walmart and Microsoft are great. If they were so evil they wouldn't be thriving like they both are.

i think most people who work for companies that sell to Wal-Mart look at them differently than the average consumer. they are great places for shoppers, but they use their economic power to completely screw over their suppliers.

Wal-Mart not only sets the prices they want to pay suppliers, but they will also refuse to pay invoices AND tack on a $25 surcharge if the invoice is even ONE CENT different than the cost they believe they should be charged. the total of the invoice could be LESS than what Wal-Mart thinks they should pay and they will take the credit but still tack on the $25 surcharge.

if the invoice contains "unauthorized product" (i.e., new flavors that weren't approved by their corporate office), Wal-Mart will keep the product and sell it, but will not pay for the product, and will not pay the invoice that contained that product until the invoice is reprocessed without it (with the standard $25 surcharge, of course).

someone posted that the suppliers could refuse to sell to them. o rly? Wal-Mart is powerful enough and has so many connections that they can easily turn consumers away from any company who did that.

Remember, kids, when capital bands together and uses it's collective power, it's called lobbying, but when labor bands together and uses it's collective power, it's called TEH COMMUNISM!!!! OH NOES!!!! EVERYONE HAS AIDS!!!!!!!!ELEVENTYONEPOINTLESOUTRAGERABBLERABBLE

So......... your saying all americans are prostitutes

we will take the $$ because we got into this situtation ourselves from choices we made but we still have the right to complain about getting fucked all the time?

instead of doing something about it? choosing not to accept that

in the early 80's when chrysler was in so much trouble CEO went to unions and said i have 1000's of jobs at $17 hr i have none at $20 ill be fine but if you dont want the $17 we will BK in the morning the leaders chose to take the cuts for the greater good they changed the way they did things and saved the company my point is all suppliers could make hard choices and do the same they dont have to do business with walmart etc but they wont do it

tim the gem explained exactly why walmart is evil, i still shop there once a week for my food, doesnt mean i dont still think they are evil

theirs a cleer defference beetween speeelleng werds rite and youzing korrect punktulization, im ovbiouviosuly a reterd

sorry, i didnt realize this was a political thread when i made my first post, since it is i will stay the fuck out

i was jsut trying to answer OPs questions

but like i said, didnt realize this was a political thread so you guys have fun bashing and doing w/e it is that makes the republican party members so much better than the rest of the country.....

It wasnt really intended to be a political post i guess that was inevitable GG brain me

i also choose to stay out of those type threads

i have stated so many times that i dont have much of an education i hated school paid as little attetion as possible so i dont use correct gramar etc i wish i did but i dont i am uneducated

not uninteligent

Care to tell me why Mr. Smith? Or is it just because you say so?

Is it good just because you say so?

First of all, food is a commodity. Health care should not be construed as a commodity.

I remember reading something as an undergrad about the cracks associated with free market health care. People with rare diseases, Lou Gehrig's disease, etc.., had a hard time getting their medicine because it was so expensive and many drug makers did not even bother researching and developing new drugs for these rare diseases. The federal government had to step in and force (i believe they also subsidized) drug companies to produce these medicines. The drug companies did not have a bristling market for these drugs and their profit margin was negligible. Thus they were not producing or researching these drugs.

I know it's a small percentage, these rare diseases, but if the government did not take action, these people would have fallen through the cracks of the free market.

This is not a sarcastic question.....

Why don't people who want gov't healthcare, union type job security, and CEO's that make just a little more than the workerbees move to Canada or someplace like that???? I am totally serious.

America is about free markets and capitalism (dare I say small gov't of the people), love it or GTFO.

There is nothing wrong with wanting all that warm and fuzzy stuff, so move somewhere where they 'give' it to you and be happy.

Why don't you move to Iraq? I hear they have the freest markets on Earth.

BENTONVILLE, Ark. -- Wal-Mart Stores donated a record $196 million to charity last year through the Wal-Mart Foundation. The contributions were made within four categories -- community education and scholarships; family health and welfare needs; economic and workforce development programs; and environmental issues -- with all money going to causes designated at store level to charitable organizations within their respective communities.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...2/ai_n15121312

This would probably be a good start IHateKK. You see, if you would stop believing the propaganda on websites funded by the the UFCW and did a little research you could actually get the other side of the story.