Originally Posted by Hank H1LL

pride doesn't necessarily lead to arrogance either but I think the point is made. finding pride to be "gross" in general is just lol to me. completely expect that we'll never agree tho

Take it in context tho, I find national pride or nationalism to be pretty gross. As in, pride over where you were born and where you are a citizen; I just don't see it as rational and it often lends to pretty gross behavior. There are moments where I am proud of the actions of my country and moments where I am shamed. Just as their are moments where I am proud of my own actions and moments where I am shamed. However, I am no more proud of the circumstances of my citizenship than I am the circumstances of my birth. I'm happy to live in the USA, but I wouldn't say I'm proud of it. Also, I'm happy being a white male, but again I wouldn't say I'm proud of it. Again I'm not saying I'm shamed by these circumstance either, I just see them as random and really nothing to be proud of.

I still think it's silly to dislike/hate or have disdain for a person you've never met based on generalizations and stereotypes, or a bad experience here or there. I haven't traveled extensively, but I've been to a few other countries, and always treated others with respect and was treated with respect in return. People should be judged based on how they behave individually. I just really don't understand this mentality of hating or disliking people based on their nationality at all.

Most Americans get just as disgusted by many of government's policies as people in other countries do. Even if you vote, you still have no control over what happens once someone is elected. Our politicians no longer serve us, they serve themselves and special interest groups. It's a sad, sad thing. It makes me very upset that some people in some country across the ocean would want to see me and my family dead for things I have little to no control over :(

 

Originally Posted by rayspizza

I just don't see it as rational and it often lends to pretty gross behavior.

so does love... and other people's pride helps to defend your freedom every day, but I'm sure you'd rather focus on when their pride embarasses you.

ncj is right... GM IS ALIVE AND BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!!!!11

 

Originally Posted by Hank H1LL

so does love... and other people's pride helps to defend your freedom every day, but I'm sure you'd rather focus on when their pride embarasses you.

ncj is right... GM IS ALIVE AND BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!!!!11

I am not embarrassed by anyone's pride. For any service that protect my freedom, without infringing on that of others, I am very grateful.

 

Originally Posted by FouTight

I have my flag on my pack... I DO NOT WANT TO BE MISTAKEN FOR A AMERICAN, and that is why I put my flag on my pack.

Good I wouldn't want the world to think we are pasty looking

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

The rest of the world public is just as much of a joke tho.

I realize that false equivalence is sort of your thing...but no, no they are not.

 

Originally Posted by Lord Supremo

I realize that false equivalence is sort of your thing...but no, no they are not.

really?

have you been to 25 other countries and talked to their locals? Do you really think that the average person in europe knows fuck all what goes on outside of the countries directly around them? I am not counting the USA because everyone knows shit about the USA as we are on tv more overseas than the Kardashians.

We are one of the most educated countries in the world as the link says above. Like i said before, go travel to european countries and ask them what goes on the Africa or South America or Asia or distant european countres or central america or canada. Most of them wont know much at all....

like it matters.

eff the dyz/feta radio slot, I'd pay to listen to pluv/lord supremo talk politics every day. mike and mike ain't got shit

People in a closely grouped continent with shared histories going back thosands of years know more about each other than people who live on the other side of the planet in a large country with just a few neighbors? Shocking.

As soon as euros start parading their knowledge of minn-stpaul water district rights and that new ordinance in new haven i'll start worrying about americans' dearth of knowledge of other countries

ima punk
everytime
gimme little room'n I'll spit in yo' eye

A little embarrassing when put on the spot.

 

Originally Posted by TMLMS13

USA - Barack Hussein Obama
Canada - no clue, wasn't there some dude named Maroney at some point, or something like that
Mexico - I wasn't aware that somebody is in charge.
England - Used to be Tony Blair. The queen is not actually in charge.
Germany - Pretty sure it's a broad. Conservative (by European standards).
France - Used to be Sarkozy, new guy is a bit of a commie.
Brazil - no clue
Russia - Putin
India - Not Ghandi anymore (it was never Original Ghandi, but one of his sons or something)
China - Not Deng Xiaoping or Chairman Mao anymore.
Japan - no clue
Iraq - Not Saddam anymore
Afghanistan - Not the Taliban anymore

I have no issue with Canadians who wear a leaf patch when travelling abroad. Wear what you like. Americans who fake like they're Canadian are faggots though.