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first-hand proof that football is bad for your brain? ;)
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My dad never wanted me to play football cause he tore up a knee when he was in high school. But he wasn't gonna stop me from doing, cause he wanted to support me
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looool this thread is just about to get really interesting
Edited By: FenwayKing Sep 15th, 2010 at 07:30 PM
diggity d, before you make random assumptions, read what people who are saying they'd be hesitant about their kids playing football are actually saying. if my son really wants to play football, then yes, I will let him play. however, when he's like 7, am I going to be signing him up for every pee-wee league I can find? no, he's going to have a baseball bat, set of golf clubs, or tennis racquets.* If he develops the interest for himself, that's fine and we'll go from there
*also like I said earlier, part of the sports preference is with an eye to what he could actually be good at, given by genes. There are only a few positions he could potentially play in football being half-Indian most likely and his chances of becoming a really good player in bball are close to 0. Obv he'll still play for those fun but in terms of taking it really seriously, I doubt he's gonna be THAT great lol -
Just make sure your kid is a DB or WR so they don't get beat up too much.
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this thread is fn tilting.....bunch of fn pussys.
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Wait... is your name really bobhica? I don't know how to feel about that.
Also, lol Fenway until just now I have always looked at your avi and though, "Huh, isn't that a bit long for Shinade O'Connor?" Now I see its the future Mrs. Fenway. -
lol, Im just incredibly pro football in every aspect, its just how I was raised. I would guess that most of those saying they do not want their kid playing football, if they can help it, probly never played themselves so naturally they would want their kid to play whatever sport they played. I know people can get seriously hurt in football, but thats just part of the game and everyone that is involved with the sport knows this.
Hockey is pretty rough sport too, with many of the same injury factors, would you guys rather have your kid play hockey over football? -
i'd rather my kid be a mathlete :)
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cant get much safer than in the math lab, lol
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I can't read all the replies right now but I am holding out my son from playing atm and he really wants to play... He is a hoss ( 4 '10, 130 lbs) and is 10 .5 yrs old... He cld def play the line right now which is fine but I don't want him getting burnt out like I did... By the time I got to high school and college it just wasnt as fun as it used to be . I will eventually let him play and even though as a parent I will be worried about him getting hurt, it's just a part of letting go. We cant coddle them for life in so many areas so you do the best u can do and then see what happens.
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That is probably the thing that is going to change in the future, there need to be significant technological adjustments made to helmets... making them softer on the outside, while still having similar cushion protection.
Edited By: resilient Sep 15th, 2010 at 07:53 PM
I'm pretty shocked at a lot of these replies. You people do realize that kids are going to grow into their own person, where you don't make all their decisions for them in life, right? And many times the things that they want to do and choose are different from what you want.... just because you control every decision in their life when they're 3 or 5 doesn't mean you will when they're 14.... and you shouldn't.
Also, yeah there is a risk in playing football... there's also a risk in getting into a car.... or swimming in a pool or lake.... or riding a skateboard. Life has risks, and accidents happen.... but it's not like they happen pervasively in football. This pretty much sums it up:
My 8th grader wanted to quit football this year... because he doesn't like to work hard and practice in 100 degree heat. His mom and I encouraged him to continue - actually I more than encouraged him, I made it clear without being threatening that it's something he needs to do. It's an important discipline for him because his alternative would have been playing more X-Box Live. And it will definitely be good for him in the long run.... and he's not complaining now that he's in the routine of practice and games. (EDIT: I should add that he's a really big kid, gonna be like 6' 6" ... his brother 2 years younger is much smaller, and we let him quit because football wasn't a good sport for him... he's playing golf, haha)Originally Posted by Mr Galt
all sports include a chance of injury. value of sports > risk of injury.
agreeOriginally Posted by ajedrez
don't have kids so maybe this lessens the validity of my opinion, but I really dont think I could tell my son he couldnt play football if he really wanted to. All of the kids I know from over-protective parents turned out to be socially retarded losers.
fuckin LOL @ not letting your son play high school football if he wants to go out for the team. Every sport carries with it some risk of injury, kids have been playing pee-wee/HS football for decades now without incident and some people really want to shelter their child because a couple of people may have developed brain damage? -
I was never going to steer my kid towards football because personally I don't like the sport and never watch it on TV. I think parents have a major influence on what sport a child chooses to play, rather than the child singularly making the decision himself. But it's an interesting discussion. Some of the best arguments are by the people who don't want their children playing, but then some of the opposing views are basically, "a bunch of pussies ITT."
I don't think those people quite get it. -
Will my kid be allowed to play? Yes
Will I do everything within my power to persuade him to try a different sport? Absolutely. -
Originally Posted by resilient
just because you control every decision in their life when they're 3 or 5 doesn't mean you will when they're 14.... and you shouldn't.
His mom and I encouraged him to continue - actually I more than encouraged him, I made it clear without being threatening that it's something he needs to do.
resilient being a hypocrite. say it ain't so -
sometimes you're retarded.... and then other times you re-write the definition.
Edited By: resilient Sep 15th, 2010 at 07:59 PM
Do you understand the meaning of "every" decision in their life? Does that mean there is no influence or discipline. uhhh no.
insert brain explosion gif from dolphin's reasoning. -
My lil bro wasn't allowed to play football. He's built like a football player and its his favorte sport but she felt it was too violent. He definitely still resents her for it, though I think he resent my dad more for not standing up to my mom about it.
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Edited By: 1.21Gigawatts Sep 15th, 2010 at 08:07 PMYou do realize that very few kids can pick up a sport at 14 and ever be any good*? Especially by the time high school is over with. So if children begin making their own choices at the age of 13-14, it's almost too late for them to start playing a new sport and make up for all the lost time. Other kids they'll be competing against will have 4-6 years experience on them.Originally Posted by resilient
You people do realize that kids are going to grow into their own person, where you don't make all their decisions for them in life, right? And many times the things that they want to do and choose are different from what you want.... just because you control every decision in their life when they're 3 or 5 doesn't mean you will when they're 14.... and you shouldn't.
We influence what sports our children play when they're much younger. You watch basketball all the time. Your kid watches it with you. He asks for a Nerf hoop when he's 4, a portable hoop in the driveway when he's 6, and then a year later he wants to play in leagues at the YMCA. By the time he's 14 and making his own decisions, he's so damn good at basketball that for him, quitting and doing something else isn't an option. He'd look at it as a stupid decision.
So while I agree that you can't control your children and you have to allow them to make their own choices, by the time they're old enough, we've already influenced them to a point that they're not going to turn their backs on what they've done their whole lives.
*football may be one of the few sports that you can pick up at 14 and still excel. -
kids begin asking to play football well before they're 14... that was just an age I chose for purposes of making an example, not that it's when they begin to make their own decisions, lol.... Obviously kids need to start earlier than that age in sports, and parents are going to have influence. But the idea that if a kid wants to play football in 5th grade, generally I would think that parents would encourage that... unless there are some mitigating conditions - like health or being small in stature.
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I'm not going to make every decision in my child's life. But if I decide to make a decision that he wont play football (which I haven't even made yet) how is it any different from your decision that you're going to more than encourage your son is going to play football.
Originally Posted by resilient
sometimes you're retarded.... and then other times you re-write the definition.
Do you understand the meaning of "every" decision in their life? Does that mean there is no influence or discipline. uhhh no.
insert brain explosion gif from dolphin's reasoning.
*head explodes due to resilient being so blind he can't see that he's a hypocrite* -
it has more to do with him wanting to quit a discipline that he's been doing for a few years, in favor of being lazy and playing video games. He needs encouragement to work and achieve. You making a decision that your child WON'T do something when they're a baby is your prerogative... but it's certainly different to encourage discipline and achievement than to reject an endeavor.
It's just one particular area that he needs discipline... he makes a ton of choices, all of which require approval of course, but you have to let them develop their own interests and tastes, and not shut down options generally.
lol @ hypocrite...
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I mean.. you talk about choices.. but how you worded your post it sounds like you strong armed your kid into doing something, because you wanted him to do it, or thought it was something he should do.
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This thread makes me want to punch most parents. The same parents who wouldn't let their kids play football would let them cruise a bike around a neighborhood where cars could hit them. Stop being pussies.
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exactly. that's what resilient did. He's being a hypocrite. He could have had his kid do 1000 different things to teach him discipline. get a job, play another sport, join another activity he enjoys. But he admitted to "more than encouraging" him to play football.
Originally Posted by Niceguy
I mean.. you talk about choices.. but how you worded your post it sounds like you strong armed your kid into doing something, because you wanted him to do it, or thought it was something he should do.
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Edited By: resilient Sep 15th, 2010 at 08:38 PMdude... he needs discipline... he wanted to quit to be lazy. His mother and I strongly encouraged him to continue. If he wanted to play soccer or basketball or whatever instead that would be fine... but football is his sport and he needs the prodding. Some children need that and some don't.Originally Posted by Niceguy
I mean.. you talk about choices.. but how you worded your post it sounds like you strong armed your kid into doing something, because you wanted him to do it, or thought it was something he should do.
EDIT: I actually wanted him to play basketball and have encouraged him to play many times, esp since he's going to be tall.... but he just doesn't like it, so he doesn't have to play. He's on the wrestling team in the winter.
I'm not arguing with retards anymore..... not referring to you Niceguy. -
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Edited By: dolphin13 Sep 15th, 2010 at 08:32 PM
maybe you shouldn't be such an overbearing parent. Let him make his own choices. He might resent you some day otherwise
haha. Now we're going back to personal attacks. I'm a retard weeeee. Since you opened the door, I'll throw a zinger through
Maybe you shouldn't have raised a pussy who is afraid of a little hard work and heat.
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FWIW I remember 3rd grade the football coaches coming in to class and asking who would like to sign up for jv football the next year. I was like wow i really want to play. never played before, had no idea about football besides watching the bears. I was really nervous about asking my mom if i could play...a year before that my mom was hit by a drunk driver w me and my cousin in the car. she was paralyzed from the waist down and my cousin broke his neck and had to wear a halo for like 9 months or something.
so i was pretty certain my family would be pretty skeptical about playing football. I mean how many severe back and neck injurries did we need as a family ?
well my mom let me play i played 5 years in grammar school and 4 years in highschool 2 at loyola which is a great football program in illinois and 2 at a private school in indiana. i was capt for two years ion the team in indy. loyola i was a bench player.
i say if your kid wants to play let him play obv you'll be nervous as a parent but what if hes really good? he'll learn a lot being part of a football team. other sports are fine as well but theres nothing like being part of a football team.
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