Originally Posted by dixiecrat88

It is a lot more research than, well I quit smoking marijuana and it didnt affect me, so I guess its ok. And if you think NIH is some biased organization, where should I find these non bias facts at? Sorry I didnt use wikipedia for my research.

this is why I told you to go back to lurking, if you think my entire conclusion is based on such simple mindedness you really are the clown you appear to be....gtfo

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

okay, but it doesn't make u unselfish not to have kids. That's absurd.

It's a lot more selfish all these dumb motherfuckers that have babies when they are broke/drug addicted/ want to stay with their baby's father/ stay in the country or the variety of other dumb ass reasons people have kids.

this, and yes I'm gonna have going to have kids in the next few years

 

Originally Posted by mordan

lool your so damn hard headed, I am not actively trying to quit anything, that is how I moderate my intake, you know different strokes for different folks.....I am not quitting and will never quit, and I don't have to take breaks, it is something I choose to do, as I said it my way of moderation.....you do this with a lot of arguments, you try to apply your experiences in your life to everyone else and come to a conclusion, its a terrible way to think because nothing applies to everyone and you can't just lump everyone into the same category.

as for fear, I call it being smart, I have self checks in place, am I fearful of an alcohol addiction no, am I aware that it runs in the family, clearly.....I'm not fearful because I am in control of myself, also because I have never experienced the craving for a drink, even day 1 of when I take a "break" its out of my mind.....as I said it all goes back to mental strength, your mind is the most powerful of all

I have found that nothing really changes at all, my motivation stays the same, I still work out daily, my relationships are the same, my mood is the same, my late night hunger cravings are still there.....if anything it reinforces that a lot of stuff people attribute to drugs/alcohol (like lack of motivation, bad eating habits, lack of social skills, etc) actually have nothing to do with the substance usage, and its more of a problem with the actual person themselves.....for me at least

dude, re-read your posts in this thread and come to understand you did exactly this.

not only that, you're far off base on a lot of your arguments.

the disease of addiction is real. what makes addicts addicts, is the disease --not the drugs, not their behavior, but the disease. it involves more than the use of drugs. it is progressive, incurable, and can be fatal. alcoholics/addicts suffer from a chemical imbalance in the brain that makes them think differently when using or when thinking about using. it is a neurological disorder. it is not necessarily a lack of will power. i can't explain it as well as I'd hope so please, look it up and educate yourself on this.

i got a good deal on some smoke and gave half of it to my son as a xmas gift - i sure hope he smokes it or it would be a terrible waste

 

Originally Posted by Shrubbery

you're right. i know nothing about your life, and you didn't mention that addiction as a disease isn't real. i reread your posts and must have jumbled a couple others into yours. my fault. however the way you came off in some of your posts lead me to believe you thought it was a mind over matter type situation or just lack of will power. i am now going to go crawl back into my hole of lurking, good day.

Its cool, no worries, I reread my posts again and I could see how it would come off as me doing the same thing I was calling out Pluv on even though that wasn't my intention, it is something that annoys me though and I try to avoid doing it as I feel its an ignorant strategy to apply. I also did come off a little as mind over matter in a few posts, and while I do have that opinion in some areas I recognize the science behind addiction and respect it.

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

dude...i live it on a daily basis...i know a shit ton about addiction because i have lived it.
aa meetings exist for people like me.

and yes amartin...those who choose not to have kids at all during their lifetime are most likely selfish

I dont understand that part at all. I dont feel I am responsible enough or financially stable enough at the moment (or possibly ever) to have children. So by not having them I think that makes me not selfish.

op: weed.

legalize it.

i have smoked more than 95% of people. I'm also smarter than 95% of people. if weed makes you dumber i was supposed to be albert einstein times five. I have smoked maybe 3 cigs in my life. expensive $10 a pack in ny taste like shit and do nothing for me. Everyone's brains are different in terms of addiction. A reasonable argument would be which is worse binge drinking or marijuana. it's most likely binge drinking. there have been studies done about people who've smoked 20,000 joints in their lifetimes and no discernible link to lung cancer was found and in some cases thc might even inhibit some types of cancer from forming. 0 documented cases of deaths from weed. cigarettes do nothing and are physically addicting. all of or most of the negative things in the media about weed are just extremely biased propaganda. imo the only reason it's not legal is because of uncertainties of long term consequences on society. lot's of weed might lead to depression but you just need to suck it up and quit being a pussy life is too short to waste time being depressed. If every cigarette addict and alcoholic was ''addicted" to weed the world would be a much better place. plain and simple weed should have an 18 year or 21 age with the same driving laws as prescription pills. Hemp can replace trees for making paper, cut off the bottom line for drug dealers that sell actual drugs while creating tons of tax revenue and cut expenses for that stupid war on drugs. Weed is also the best cure for a stomach ache that i've ever come across. watch the union on netflix if you don't want to be brainwashed about the truth about this 'drug' lmao. I truly have no idea why it's not legal must be something to do with big $$$ Players. My advice for anyone considering drugs if you just smoked a shit ton of weed instead you will make it out of your bind.

lol who knows. 14 years ago was my first time so maybe that was an exaggeration for people older than me

Weed, bc there has never been a case of black lung or cancer bc of it. It is also an anti-inflammatory, it's good for you. Too bad all of America has been fed lies about marijuana and the health benefits from it. the health benefits are mainly from eating it, but like I said it's an anti-inflammtory so if you have asthma, it gets rid of that. Best way to smoke it is vaporizing it, absolutely no harmful effects. and it's not addicting and a killer like cigs. please someone deny that any of this is true, I would def like to see where you got your facts from, I will show you where I got mine.

 

Originally Posted by markn3492

i have smoked more than 95% of people. I'm also smarter than 95% of people. if weed makes you dumber i was supposed to be albert einstein times five. I have smoked maybe 3 cigs in my life. expensive $10 a pack in ny taste like shit and do nothing for me. Everyone's brains are different in terms of addiction. A reasonable argument would be which is worse binge drinking or marijuana. it's most likely binge drinking. there have been studies done about people who've smoked 20,000 joints in their lifetimes and no discernible link to lung cancer was found and in some cases thc might even inhibit some types of cancer from forming. 0 documented cases of deaths from weed. cigarettes do nothing and are physically addicting. all of or most of the negative things in the media about weed are just extremely biased propaganda. imo the only reason it's not legal is because of uncertainties of long term consequences on society. lot's of weed might lead to depression but you just need to suck it up and quit being a pussy life is too short to waste time being depressed. If every cigarette addict and alcoholic was ''addicted" to weed the world would be a much better place. plain and simple weed should have an 18 year or 21 age with the same driving laws as prescription pills. Hemp can replace trees for making paper, cut off the bottom line for drug dealers that sell actual drugs while creating tons of tax revenue and cut expenses for that stupid war on drugs. Weed is also the best cure for a stomach ache that i've ever come across. watch the union on netflix if you don't want to be brainwashed about the truth about this 'drug' lmao. I truly have no idea why it's not legal must be something to do with big $$$ Players. My advice for anyone considering drugs if you just smoked a shit ton of weed instead you will make it out of your bind.

this guy knows whats up, everyone is so ignorant that disagrees...do some fucking research.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

I've always loved listening to people who smoke weed everyday talk about how weed isn't addictive.



basically

Are you talking about me? Well I don't smoke it everyday, don't have the money for that. And if someone does smoke it everyday they have their reasons, as long as they are a productive person on it, who gives a fuck. Some people shouldn't smoke weed every day tho, they suck at life already and weed just enhances that for them. I just get defensive about weed bc so many people don't have the facts straight about it. Thanks to our sweet government for helping on that one...

weed obv, nicotine is obscenely addictive & horrible for health reasons. Whereas marijuana holds much less dangers to ones health and is far less addictive.

if weed was legal, weed. i tried cigs before anything else.

i dont think anyone gets to characterize anyone else's experience with addiction. it's personal and specific to that person. we all fight the beast in our own way, to varying degrees of success, and there's no right or wrong.

 

Originally Posted by I Fold

Weed, Cause Cigs are 100 X more addictive than weed and aren't even fun. Its one of those things that if you never try you wont miss it at all, but if you get hooked its very difficult to stop.

ever notice like 90% of tobacco-users started before they were legal to use tobacco products? great business plan, only said 90% because I know one person that started after the were 21 but it's clear there would be a tiny fraction of the current number of smokers if we could somehow keep people from trying/starting so young.

this has to be the dumbest question ive ever seen...would I rather catch my kid smoking tobacco or doing drugs? You tell me...