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Get photo of her > get various looking tats , jewelry and such >photoshop them on the photo and have her show her freinds so they can tell her how dumb she would look...
Mine has tats all over her sholders so what do I know , no pics gfy lol -
i would 100% allow a face piercing over a tat. she will get tired of it eventually and take it out and the hole will close. tats or mistakes that cant be easily erased.
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I would just remind her that a tat will be there forever unless surgically removed so keep it small and tasteful. Piercing is less of a problem b/c it's only a piercing and can be taken out any time. I wouldn't refuse her esp considering she is just shy of 18yrs old. If she was under 16, different story.
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id like to say that i would allow either but i dont have kids yet
Edited By: Hallettcopta Feb 7th, 2012 at 03:51 AM
i personally think that 99.5% of tattoos are horrible looking but i certainly dont think im gonna be the most stern parent in the world... if the kid wants one after theyre 18 thats something they'll have to live with. -
Does she want a job in the future?
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sax, some of those piercings will look worse when you remove the jewellery. Think about the fools with the discs in their lobes . . . not all piercings are created equal.
Originally Posted by saxman
I would just remind her that a tat will be there forever unless surgically removed so keep it small and tasteful. Piercing is less of a problem b/c it's only a piercing and can be taken out any time. I wouldn't refuse her esp considering she is just shy of 18yrs old. If she was under 16, different story.
And, I do think there is something to the idea of getting one (ink or piercing) leading to more. I have three simple pieces on my shoulder. Doubt I will get more, but I do think about it fairly regularly. Used to wear a stud in my ear until EVERYONE started doing the same thing. That is another angle of attack as well. If she wants this out of some sense of uniqueness, just point out how common and faddish they seem to be. "Your accountant has one? Okay, forget it." -
think about the repercussions from his daughter. she will hate him and be buckwild and do everything in her power to piss him off OR he agrees to a piercing which isnt absurd(dont agree to a tat) and she is an obedient daughter w a "cool" Dad who respects her enough to let her do something which isnt causing any harm to herself or anyone else.
Originally Posted by Milo
sax, some of those piercings will look worse when you remove the jewellery. Think about the fools with the discs in their lobes . . . not all piercings are created equal.
And, I do think there is something to the idea of getting one (ink or piercing) leading to more. I have three simple pieces on my shoulder. Doubt I will get more, but I do think about it fairly regularly. Used to wear a stud in my ear until EVERYONE started doing the same thing. That is another angle of attack as well. If she wants this out of some sense of uniqueness, just point out how common and faddish they seem to be. "Your accountant has one? Okay, forget it." -
It wont stop there either, nobody gets one septum ring and just stops. She will end up being one of those human salamander types with the forked tounges and a pound of cheap silver in her face.
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fair enough - i wasn't thinking about any of those huge discs in the ears lol. Just assumed she would get something small at first. i guess in general, i'm not opposed to tats or piercings if they're done in good taste. Obviously if you get something that looks like a zulu warrior, i wouldn't be a fan haha
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A Mexican with tats. Surprise, surprise
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Kids do NOT need their parents to be their friends, or to be "cool". Kids need their parents to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. Namely, look after their best interests, whether the kids know it or not. My Dad used to piss me off when I was a teen, because half my pay-cheque HAD to go into my savings account and STAY there. That was MY MONEY, DAMMIT. But what that did is instill in me the need to have money set aside, and to live within my means. Still a struggle at times, but it was a vaulable lesson, and I thank God he did it.
Originally Posted by Cmoney3
think about the repercussions from his daughter. she will hate him and be buckwild and do everything in her power to piss him off OR he agrees to a piercing which isnt absurd(dont agree to a tat) and she is an obedient daughter w a "cool" Dad who respects her enough to let her do something which isnt causing any harm to herself or anyone else.
If the OP's daughter is as smart as she seems, I doubt she turns into a hellion over this issue. She may get something done when she turns 18, but then it is her choice, and her responsibility. -
ok, serious question:
Originally Posted by Milo
Kids do NOT need their parents to be their friends, or to be "cool". Kids need their parents to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. Namely, look after their best interests, whether the kids know it or not. My Dad used to piss me off when I was a teen, because half my pay-cheque HAD to go into my savings account and STAY there. That was MY MONEY, DAMMIT. But what that did is instill in me the need to have money set aside, and to live within my means. Still a struggle at times, but it was a vaulable lesson, and I thank God he did it.
If the OP's daughter is as smart as she seems, I doubt she turns into a hellion over this issue. She may get something done when she turns 18, but then it is her choice, and her responsibility.
what do you do if the said child, actually took the time and courage to ask you for something that they know is not likely to happen, but they still have the balls to ask; Gets shut down by the parents, and then does it anyways???
u force them to get rid of the piercing? cover the tattoo?
you guys are lucky enough that your daughters love you and respect your wishes enough to even ask for you opinion imo -
What is the big deal? A septum piercing can easily be hidden by flipping the jewelry up inside the nose.
I like tattoos (4) and piercings (Prince Albert and 00 scrotal). -
one of my girls wanted that tiny barbell thingy in an eyebrow. i said okay but for some reason it never happened, don't remember why. hell no on the tat.
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no chance a 16-18 year old is smart/mature enough to pick a tattoo that they 1000000% will want the rest of their lives. shit is so tilting, i can't believe parents let their kids get tattoos that young.
ps: if you or someone you know got a tattoo that young and it still does it for you, you got lucky imo. -
Sounds to me like she has made good choices so far if she's an honor student likely to earn a scholarship. If she feels like an idiot after getting it, she can take it out. Seems to me that she would have a legitimate gripe about making good decisions, and deserving the right to make decisions about a temporary hole in her own face. Imo
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When I asked my dad if I could get an earing he said "if you want to look like a fag". you probably want to steer away from being that hateful.
Piercing yes (septum, ear, eyebrow, tounge) I'll draw the line at anything >8 gauge though. Tats, no way. BTW I'm not against the look of it, I'm against the permanent damage being done and my child not being old enough to make a sound decision.. -
Originally Posted by El Burro
Sounds to me like she has made good choices so far if she's an honor student likely to earn a scholarship. If she feels like an idiot after getting it, she can take it out. Seems to me that she would have a legitimate gripe about making good decisions, and deserving the right to make decisions about a temporary hole in her own face. Imo
I remember the stripper you picked out at Treasures. She had more tattoos and piercings than all of OT combined. I think you have ulterior motives here. Be careful Blonde -
I agree. I feel like most of the time the kid just feels stupid a year later anyway. The kids that end up with all the tattoos and piercings because their parents are "cool" are the same kids who never had any discipline and end up fucking up their lives. Not saying there aren't exceptions of course.
Originally Posted by Milo
Kids do NOT need their parents to be their friends, or to be "cool". Kids need their parents to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. Namely, look after their best interests, whether the kids know it or not. My Dad used to piss me off when I was a teen, because half my pay-cheque HAD to go into my savings account and STAY there. That was MY MONEY, DAMMIT. But what that did is instill in me the need to have money set aside, and to live within my means. Still a struggle at times, but it was a vaulable lesson, and I thank God he did it.
If the OP's daughter is as smart as she seems, I doubt she turns into a hellion over this issue. She may get something done when she turns 18, but then it is her choice, and her responsibility. -
I'd allow any piercing, wouldn't allow any tattoo if my permission required it. Not sure what I would do if they were in a state/country where you didn't need permission (I'm not up on the local laws on this stuff).
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pluv spoke like 24 posts ago why the fuck is this thread still going?
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It's probably just a phase she is going through. Just tell her you'll think about it and in a few weeks it will be yesterdays new.
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teaching you to save money is fine. what is he teaching her by saying no to a small face piercing? A relationship with your kid doesnt have to be prisoner and prison guard. you can have an open loing relationship with your kid if you go about it the right way. earn their respect and trust and they will be open with you. piss them off and make them think you are a prick for no reason and they will make your life hell. I have raised 4 kids, and all have college degrees, are married and make good money. two own houses and i jsut became a grandfather a few months ago. You would be surprised what having a loving relationship with your kids will do for them.
Originally Posted by Milo
Kids do NOT need their parents to be their friends, or to be "cool". Kids need their parents to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. Namely, look after their best interests, whether the kids know it or not. My Dad used to piss me off when I was a teen, because half my pay-cheque HAD to go into my savings account and STAY there. That was MY MONEY, DAMMIT. But what that did is instill in me the need to have money set aside, and to live within my means. Still a struggle at times, but it was a vaulable lesson, and I thank God he did it.
If the OP's daughter is as smart as she seems, I doubt she turns into a hellion over this issue. She may get something done when she turns 18, but then it is her choice, and her responsibility. -
I used this one, her answer was I can take it out...its not a tattoo
This worries me too. Its like a gateway drugOriginally Posted by Milo
And, I do think there is something to the idea of getting one (ink or piercing) leading to more.
This. I'm a cool dad, but I don't lose the scope...my job is DAD first.Originally Posted by Milo
Kids do NOT need their parents to be their friends, or to be "cool". Kids need their parents to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. Namely, look after their best interests, whether the kids know it or not.
All this started at dinner last night when my younger daughter was flaunting a new piercing in her upper ear. I told them both any piercings anywhere besides the ear will be torn off.Originally Posted by smokerock247
what do you do if the said child, actually took the time and courage to ask you for something that they know is not likely to happen, but they still have the balls to ask; Gets shut down by the parents, and then does it anyways???
you sound like herOriginally Posted by Indianachris
What is the big deal? A septum piercing can easily be hidden by flipping the jewelry up inside the nose.
I agree with all of this, and all Im asking is her to consider it for another 6 months.Originally Posted by El Burro
Sounds to me like she has made good choices so far if she's an honor student likely to earn a scholarship. If she feels like an idiot after getting it, she can take it out. Seems to me that she would have a legitimate gripe about making good decisions, and deserving the right to make decisions about a temporary hole in her own face. Imo
I hope this happens because its so ridiculous looking and trashy. Anytime I see someone I want to rip it out -
Well, I guess I have a few points with regards to this. My parents had the view of "I don't condone it but when you're 18, it's your body and your choice." I've ended up half covered in tattoos and my parents are actually fans of them now and love the art. My sister is now apprenticing to be a tattoo artist and my father tells people, "if you asked me what I never expected to hear myself say when my son was born, I really like your new tattoo would of been at the top of the list." At the same time I got my tongue pierced a week before I graduated high school and my mom flipped her shit at the time. Kept screaming about how it couldn't have been real and what the fuck was wrong with me. She eventually came around on the tattoo thing as well. Honestly, once she's 18 she'll do whatever she wants, so the more you fight it the more she'll probably want it just to rebel. I don't suggest letting her do it, but just ignore it and say "when you're 18, do whatever you want." There's no reason to be the "cool" dad that lets her do whatever she wants, but no reason not to be the "reasonable dad" or shit, just "logical dad" that knows it's out of your hands at some point so might as well tell her what you think and that she can make her own decision when she's old enough.
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