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  1. I have never really read a suicide note before, but if this doesn't paint a picture of what some people go through I don't know what does. I don't know how anybody like this can be helped.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_805689.html
    Edited By: (oIo) Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:00 PM
  2. i don't know what to say. this is a prime example of why it's justified to give rapists similar sentences to murderers.
  3. That's fucking sad.

    Sometimes i feel like i might be over stepping boundaries when talking with friends, but stories like this are why i usually press.
  4. im sure its sad..but me and 4000 words never get along.

    suicide is never the answer tho..esp when there are drugs and alcohol available.
  5. childhood abuse is the most devastating thing possible. almost nobody is able to recover and live a normal life after something like that happens to them. its just too damaging.
  6. Yeah if anyone ever does anything like that to my kid I will absolutely murder them violently.

    People are such assholes.
    Edited By: jtown1010 Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:28 PM
    Reason: some people suck I mean
  7.  
    Originally Posted by Sandman_Good View Post

    im sure its sad..but me and 4000 words never get along.

    suicide is never the answer tho..

    seemed like a thought out and smart decision in this case. he said he couldn't live one day without the reminder and pain of his abuse, and was worried that he would hurt or kill someone eventually. i don't see what is wrong with suicide there.. seems like a responsible decision.
  8. wow.

    its amazing if he had just told someone about the molestation, it may have been different. very sad. the whole time reading it, im like just tell someone ur secret and see what happens, if it really makes people reject you and see you as flawed, then kill yourself. but give people a chance to accept you with your secret.

    was just frustrated reading whole thing.
     
  9. so sad
  10.  
    Originally Posted by AmSlim22 View Post

    wow.

    its amazing if he had just told someone about the molestation, it may have been different. very sad. the whole time reading it, im like just tell someone ur secret and see what happens, if it really makes people reject you and see you as flawed, then kill yourself. but give people a chance to accept you with your secret.

    was just frustrated reading whole thing.

    It just ain't that simple
  11. Why the hell didn't he tell us who raped him? It doesn't seem like it was his dad.

    I think its good that people kill themselves in peace. It is much better than the assholes who go out and (mass) murder suicide.

    Thanks Bill for being a man and doing what is right in your circumstances.
  12. Wow. Powerful.
     
  13.  
    Originally Posted by Sandman_Good View Post

    suicide is never the answer tho..esp when there are drugs and alcohol available.

    You should teach coping strategies.
  14. Sad, not gonna comment on the effects of molestation on here anymore though, just really sad. RIP, his pain is over.
    Edited By: jesterwords Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:18 PM
  15. crazy we have monsters in our world with the ability to destroy ones life before it begins.
    very sad , alot of what was written is spot on, he had a miserable existence and could never speak with anyone in regards to it.
    accurate about doctors and surgeons/ etc bringing home war tales about there days,
    he had only one way out , i think everyone one of us would have murdered the person then taken our own life.
  16.  
    Originally Posted by XquiziVex View Post

    Why the hell didn't he tell us who raped him? It doesn't seem like it was his dad.

    I think its good that people kill themselves in peace. It is much better than the assholes who go out and (mass) murder suicide.

    Thanks Bill for being a man and doing what is right in your circumstances.

    I agree with this. people say suicide is never the answer, but for some people maybe it is. he didn't leave a wife or any kids behind without a dad, had no meaningful relationships with anyone, and felt he was just never going to get better. Sure maybe he could have got professional treatment, but it's his life and maybe he just didn't want to deal with it. It's sad but not something that should be condemned. doing it without hurting a bunch of innocent people is also much more respectable, rather than being like some of these asshole kids who go to school and shoot the whole place up before blowing their head off.
  17.  
    Originally Posted by j_money24 View Post

    It just ain't that simple

    it can be. you find somebody that is accepting, and get yourself in therapy to help you cope with it. you probably won't ever be normal, but you also may not have to kill yourself.
  18.  
    Originally Posted by j_money24 View Post

    It just ain't that simple

    obv, for him telling his secret was the most difficult thing in the world to do, suicide was easier.

    wasnt saying, why didnt he just tell someone, but just noting that if he could have just found a way to make that leap, im sure it wouldnt have been as bad as he thought.

     
    Originally Posted by Neeek View Post

    it can be. you find somebody that is accepting, and get yourself in therapy to help you cope with it. you probably won't ever be normal, but you also may not have to kill yourself.

    i think it is important for people to be reminded that nobody is normal and so much effort/stress goes into people trying to appear normal.
     
  19. just so sad, suicide has really never been justified in my eyes until now. wtf else could he have done

    i hope the rapist gets/got what they deserved
    Edited By: Hallettcopta Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:45 PM
  20. really sad story..rip. What weird religion does his parents belong to that kicks a kid out of your home, I feel pissed off at his parents to choose faith over family. I'm not against religion but, but thats fucked up.
     
  21.  
    Originally Posted by AmSlim22 View Post

    obv, for him telling his secret was the most difficult thing in the world to do, suicide was easier.

    wasnt saying, why didnt he just tell someone, but just noting that if he could have just found a way to make that leap, im sure it wouldnt have been as bad as he thought.

    i think it is important for people to be reminded that nobody is normal and so much effort/stress goes into people trying to appear normal.

    I agree with this. I mean obviously he could have told someone and nothing would have changed but if he was going to tell the world anyways in this letter what harm would it have been to try and talk to someone before the suicide was necessary. If nothing changed he could always go the same route he chose. Very sad and this quote is disturbing:

    "I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead--one with less hatred and intolerance."
  22. Jesus that is depressing. Rip bill
  23. its obviously a sad story. i always feel bad for those that resort to suicide.

    saying that, theres either a bunch of hypocrites ITT or the other OTers haven't weighed in yet. i clearly remember a thread about suicide maybe a month ago where everyone was saying the dude was mad selfish and anyone that resorts to suicide is a pussy and a bitch. funny how much someone's perception about suicide changes after reading their suicide note...
  24. I read it all. Made me re-evaluate my thoughts on suicide. I kept thinking 'therapy' but he explained why that wouldnt work for him. Perhaps he chose the best option for him. Sad.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by Hallettcopta View Post

    just so sad, suicide has really never been justified in my eyes until now. wtf else could he have done

    i hope the rapist gets/got what they deserved

    Whoever did it is dead, he states that in the letter.
  26. uhg.
  27.  
    Originally Posted by 4Aces1King1 View Post

    Whoever did it is dead, he states that in the letter.

    No he didn't. In fact, he implies that the molester is still living: "There's no point in identifying who molested me, so I'm just going to leave it at that. I doubt the word of a dead guy with no evidence about something that happened over twenty years ago would have much sway."
  28. Idk why but it feels like I just read a huge lie.
  29.  
    Originally Posted by m0ss View Post

    Idk why but it feels like I just read a huge lie.


    That's pretty respectful of the dead. Wanna go kick his dog now?
  30. I believe everything in it, not sure why he would lie in a suicide note. Really heartbreaking letter.