Big pots are for big hands. You should strongly reconsider the strength of 1 pair hands when facing a raise on the turn. Beware of the speech. Also the king was irrelevant as you were drawing dead on the turn. Maybe start playing AJo when you're first to the pot, let it go when it's been raised to you preflop.

tough spot man

live poker, wow

this...

 

Originally Posted by RuninSht

I would have just shoved preflop. You only had 17bblinds left and AJ is a good hand to shove over a opening raise. You have fold equity to where your opponent can fold with a worse hand becasue he isnt priced into calling, but if you get called you arent in that bad of shape unless he has AA AQ orAK. So make him make the decision if he wants to race for more than half of his stack. Then again UTG raises are alot of times usually strong holdings unless you have noticed he was aggressive and had been opening a decent amount of the time. But flatting here i dont think is the right play. I think you should have either shoved or just folded if you thought he might have been strong preflop considering the amount of times he was playing in hands. Just my opionion

or fold pre. No in between

Easy fold preflop. Both a flat and a shove are pretty terrible here. I think the turn bet is pretty bad too - after the speech and his check/calling of the driest A high flop of all time, I don't see any reason to fire again. You're only folding out the hands you have beat (and have a slim chance at drawing out on you), or committing yourself against the hands that have you beat, and when you're beat here, you're smoked.

Not sure if I worded that well, but just wait for a better spot - once the antes kick in, look for a good spot to reship and rebuild to a stack where you can actually play flops.

 

Originally Posted by RuninSht

How is reshipping with 17bbs over an early posistion raise with AJ in late posistion along with fold equity terrible? I guess you would have nitfolded AQ preflop as well???

this. online it's close... live its an lol_jam. leople will fold like 99- in real life in a spot like that... I think the way he played the hand he def was folding pre.

I kinda agree that live it is a lol jam pre , but if your talking about highbuyin tourneys with a decent field and structure then yeah i know what you mean about LOL fold. But this tourney was a $20 buyin with starting stacks at 3k im guessing. with the 2nd level playing at 50 100. So with 17bbs in this kind of tournament with the kind of players that are in it, i was saying that I really dont think reshoving AJ in this spot in late posistion when blinds are going up to 100-200 in like 5 min was a bad shove over an early posistion raise also having fold equity. Even if the guy isnt that aggro. I mean I said it was a fold sometimes also but I think after explaining myself more in depth why.... I AM THE DECK FTW that you would sometimes agree to shove there. But Im not saying it isnt a fold as well.

Shorr Sticking Around
Posted 1 hour 44 minutes ago by FerricRamsium • Level 18: 2,000-4,000, 500 ante
AJ Jejelowo raised to 10,000 from middle position, and Shannon Shorr three-bet shoved for 80,000 flat. Jejelowo quickly called with KK , and Shorr's AJ was a big underdog to keep him around.
The 2 A 2 flop changed everything, though, and the J turn and the river 9 sealed the deal. Shorr finds his double to 167,000, while Jejelowo drops out of the chip lead to 410,000 with his kings betraying him.


Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...-championship/

Shorr Eroding
Posted 6 hours 3 minutes ago by FerricRamsium • Level 15: 1,000-2,000, 300 ante

Shannon Shorr
Jeremiah Vinsant was all in before the flop for about 45,000 with 33 . Shannon Shorr looked him up with AJ , and the race was on.
The 5 9 3 flop was money in the bank for Vinsant, and the turn 2 and river 8 sealed his double up. He's back up to 95,000, while Shorr dips to 118,500.

Yeah I guess "Always" reshoving with AJ is a terrbile idea live. I guess you can ask Shannon Shorr why he did it twice in 2 levels. Yeah they both woke up with pairs but the reason he is reshoving is because AJ isnt a bad hand to reshove with when people are opening with 20bb or less. With the factors I stated above involving johnnyb420's tourney I think it is the right move. I dont know who would fold 99 preflop with 17bbs to 1 opening raise though?

 

Originally Posted by RuninSht

Shorr Sticking Around
Posted 1 hour 44 minutes ago by FerricRamsium • Level 18: 2,000-4,000, 500 ante
AJ Jejelowo raised to 10,000 from middle position, and Shannon Shorr three-bet shoved for 80,000 flat. Jejelowo quickly called with KK , and Shorr's AJ was a big underdog to keep him around.
The 2 A 2 flop changed everything, though, and the J turn and the river 9 sealed the deal. Shorr finds his double to 167,000, while Jejelowo drops out of the chip lead to 410,000 with his kings betraying him.


Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...-championship/

Shorr Eroding
Posted 6 hours 3 minutes ago by FerricRamsium • Level 15: 1,000-2,000, 300 ante

Shannon Shorr
Jeremiah Vinsant was all in before the flop for about 45,000 with 33 . Shannon Shorr looked him up with AJ , and the race was on.
The 5 9 3 flop was money in the bank for Vinsant, and the turn 2 and river 8 sealed his double up. He's back up to 95,000, while Shorr dips to 118,500.

Yeah I guess "Always" reshoving with AJ is a terrbile idea live. I guess you can ask Shannon Shorr why he did it twice in 2 levels. Yeah they both woke up with pairs but the reason he is reshoving is because AJ isnt a bad hand to reshove with when people are opening with 20bb or less. With the factors I stated above involving johnnyb420's tourney I think it is the right move. I dont know who would fold 99 preflop with 17bbs to 1 opening raise though?

pretty sure OP's hand is pre ante, which makes a huge difference. Open folding ajo there all day.

I agree with not calling 2.5x with AJ when im only 17bb deep. 3bet shove or fold, no other line for me!

 

Originally Posted by peacebrother

no body is folding a pair pre flop live for 20.00

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