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  1. Played little live before the online boom and multi tabled SNG's online with good success. Have not played live cash in a few years. Went out to local Illinois casino and played some 1/2 other night. WOW I have never seen so many fish and overbets in my life. Most of the preflop raises where making it 15-18 pre flop in 1/2...WTF is this the norm?? Any tips on live play.....I played TAG style and lost $80 in 4 hours. Lost a couple $100+ pots w. fish getting lucky on river and 1 hand when I mucked marginal hand to a big bet.
  2. value betting is huge in 1/2, do not slowplay too often... You will get paid off a ton if u just value bet....Position is huge, you should be dominating from Button, CO, and HJ...play aggressive...bluff a lot of small pots and get the money in on the large pots....clearly it is very different depending on ur table...also make sure you are paying attention to the hands ur not in, you can get a ton of information
  3. id say minimum raise would have to be around 10-12 so 15-18 doesnt seem bad tho i havent played 1-2 in a long time
     
  4. yeah...that raising is normal. i have played a lot live. only bluff the younger kids that you think are competent. older guys just wont fold so there is usually no point in trying to bluff them. play position and u will crush. if there are 5 or 6 limpers to u in late position and u have trash like 56os or 45os or something go ahead and limp in and try to hit a big flop. the times u do hit and get payed make it worth "playing bad" by limping in.
  5. people raise too much pre and bet too little post, its kind of funny. just play tag and only ip and you should be able to beat any 1/2 game
  6. I agree, position is the key to beating 1/2. Most of the players will call to often with bad hands and take them to far. Tight is right, value bet constantly and bluff small pots in position when the board is dry.
  7. tag wins, do not bluff too much and stay patient. bieng cardead for 3 hours can be pretty frustrating.glgl
  8. 1/2 get on a table with some (2-3) strait degenerate gamblers. You should be playing 1-2- straddle 5-25 to go before you know it. easy game
  9. I grind 1/2 right now for a job. It is very weak, you want to always be at the best table though because there are times when you can be at a table of some people who know what they are doing. If where you play has 3-4 tables or more don't settle until you are at a table you can control.

    I find bluffing rarely works unless you can rep a huge huge hand, like a 4th flush card hits and you know they don't have one, otherwise you are most likely getting called down. People love to shove flush/straight draws so just wait for a big hand and get paid off. When you hit a set, do not slowplay just play it as hard as you can and hope they have sometimes.

    Be careful and don't overplay hands like AJ/A10. Position is extremely important, you can scoop a ton of pots this way.
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    Originally Posted by BigEarn7 View Post

    I grind 1/2 right now for a job. It is very weak, you want to always be at the best table though because there are times when you can be at a table of some people who know what they are doing. If where you play has 3-4 tables or more don't settle until you are at a table you can control.

    I find bluffing rarely works unless you can rep a huge huge hand, like a 4th flush card hits and you know they don't have one, otherwise you are most likely getting called down. People love to shove flush/straight draws so just wait for a big hand and get paid off. When you hit a set, do not slowplay just play it as hard as you can and hope they have sometimes.

    Be careful and don't overplay hands like AJ/A10. Position is extremely important, you can scoop a ton of pots this way.

    good advice here... impressive that you play 1-2 nl for a living didnt think that was possible
  11. You'll be playing against people that are so bad and spew so much that you'll be tempted to lower your open/calling ranges and play oop in order to get their $$ before someone else does. Don't do it. Be patient and play a smart, TAG game, I guarantee you will turn a consistent profit.
  12. there is a lot of good info in this thread and if u stick to most of the tips you ll be in good shape. imo there a couple of tips that have worked really well for me, get use to 2-5 hours of dead cards, don t lower ur playing style to match the other players. don t fall in love w/ tp tk when the bets and calls SCREAM flush/str8 draws, or 2 pair etc... play pos when the situation is +EV, don t let the reg s see u make the same 3xbb raise on the btn etc..... most importantly do not play the way the table is playing (loose, gambiling) just TAG it up and it will fattin up ur BR. but trust me when i say do not lower ur open/calling range because the 3 villians have been winning huge pots w/ weak holdings all night long. fwiw
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    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    good advice here... impressive that you play 1-2 nl for a living didnt think that was possible

    I'm just in the process of looking for a job now so I do this to stay busy and make some side cash. My winrate since I have moved down to $1/2 is about $30/hr so I can't complain about that. I need to log more hours though.
  14. Good advice so far in this thread. I agree the main way to earn loot at these games is to smash flops for cheap and have them pay you off...

    But, I've noticed a few things about live cash now that I've been playing more since BF:

    First is: be prepared to run bad for hours and subsequently be tilty because of this. It is so easy to 'finally wake up with KK' and then over play a 9 high flop or whatever... When you are running bad and you do finally wake up, just remember what you are trying to accomplish, and even if you have to end up folding your aces after being card dead for hours, you just gotta do it when you know you're beat... but, this can prove to be very challenging (at least in my experience). Also, it's easy to play a hand like AJo UTG when you've been card dead, when in a full ring game this is a pretty simple fold, but when you've been looking down at shit for a longggggg time, it's so easy to play this spot. Similarly, if someone raises utg and gets a caller from EP (let's say UTG+2), and then it gets to me MP2 with like AQo, again I'm probably just mucking it... it's just not gonna be a spot where you want to peel at least 3 handed, and once you call someone behind will prolly throw in as well and now ur 4 handed or more with a hand that doesn't smash very well, and when it does, your opponents prolly missed everything (cus you hit like AA3 or w/e)... the best spots, at least in my experience, are paired/connected hands as well as suited Aces (if you can peel cheap). These are the hands that connect the best and when they do hit you're likelihood of getting paid is also higher.

    Secondly, and most importantly, realize that since it's only 1 table at a time and live, you really do have to just be extremely patient and wait for what feels like eternity to finally hit something. but, this works much better than playing fast, trying to scoop a bunch of pots by bluffing etc. it's just not the skills that are necessary to consistently beat this game. I wouldn't try to get in your opponents head's and out think them. It'll just end up costing you because you'll level yourself and just be wrong way more often then not when trying to own people or watever. Take the simple approach at first, if you don't like it over a ton of hours of play then i would suggest experimenting... but it won't be necessary
     
  15.  
    Originally Posted by Whatshoulditbe View Post

    Good advice so far in this thread. I agree the main way to earn loot at these games is to smash flops for cheap and have them pay you off...

    But, I've noticed a few things about live cash now that I've been playing more since BF:

    First is: be prepared to run bad for hours and subsequently be tilty because of this. It is so easy to 'finally wake up with KK' and then over play a 9 high flop or whatever... When you are running bad and you do finally wake up, just remember what you are trying to accomplish, and even if you have to end up folding your aces after being card dead for hours, you just gotta do it when you know you're beat... but, this can prove to be very challenging (at least in my experience). Also, it's easy to play a hand like AJo UTG when you've been card dead, when in a full ring game this is a pretty simple fold, but when you've been looking down at shit for a longggggg time, it's so easy to play this spot. Similarly, if someone raises utg and gets a caller from EP (let's say UTG+2), and then it gets to me MP2 with like AQo, again I'm probably just mucking it... it's just not gonna be a spot where you want to peel at least 3 handed, and once you call someone behind will prolly throw in as well and now ur 4 handed or more with a hand that doesn't smash very well, and when it does, your opponents prolly missed everything (cus you hit like AA3 or w/e)... the best spots, at least in my experience, are paired/connected hands as well as suited Aces (if you can peel cheap). These are the hands that connect the best and when they do hit you're likelihood of getting paid is also higher.

    Secondly, and most importantly, realize that since it's only 1 table at a time and live, you really do have to just be extremely patient and wait for what feels like eternity to finally hit something. but, this works much better than playing fast, trying to scoop a bunch of pots by bluffing etc. it's just not the skills that are necessary to consistently beat this game. I wouldn't try to get in your opponents head's and out think them. It'll just end up costing you because you'll level yourself and just be wrong way more often then not when trying to own people or watever. Take the simple approach at first, if you don't like it over a ton of hours of play then i would suggest experimenting... but it won't be necessary

    Great advice. My only losses are when I get card dead and end up tilting/spewing. It is very frustrating live because you can't just go ahead and play those other 5 tables or so. The tilting eats at you and that is easily the hardest thing to avoid. I have had sessions where I play for 5 hours and there is only 1 hand that makes or breaks my whole session. That is the way things goes sometimes.

    If you aren't mentally tough you're never going to make it as a live player.
  16. I agree that a lot of what it takes to rape the small stakes live games is mental toughness. Its all about training your mind to do things that sound absurd in the online arena. Making money is cool and to make money in live 1/2 games you have to be able to fold tptk quite often. Just setmine and valuebet 3 streets.

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