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Article: Adjusting to Micro Stakes Online Poker Games

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  1. thearthurdog thearthurdog is offline

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    May 19th, 2009 (5/19/2009 12:42pm)

  2. Popperhead Popperhead is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:22am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Good stuff</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:48am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>This is on the money.   Everything you have said applies.. The typical micro limit player is out to have fun.  Any two cards is their strategy.  Broadway or suited cards are the nuts.  Suited cards or a pair?  Monster.  Do not think that shoving light will not draw a call from the big stack w a marginal/crap hand.  Why?  Because he is the big stack and playing sheriff is his duty.  Welcome to micro stakes poker. </p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:52am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>lol @ the 140 raise in the small blind with AJ early on! jokes!</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:57am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Good Article Arthur!</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:08am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>I think the article is spot on, except that I almost fully disagree with the example that he gives.</p>
    <p>I like the raise in the SB with the AJ.  The reason is for exactly how the article goes.  10-8 is calling all day, and they are willing to get stacked on a gutshot draw.  Someone wants to flip a 10-8 on me, I'm thrilled to death.  Sure, when they hit their 9, your disgruntled (and when it seemingly happens 50% of the time, you'll begin to hate the game) but you have to love it.  Why would you want to play this hand any other way?</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:08am) in reply to thearthurdog

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 11:57am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>there are some good points in this article such as the lose calling ranges he points out, however i dissagree with limping so lose early on.  I advise only limping pp's maybe some sc's in late position.  If i am in late position with AKss or AQ ss and have a rais with a few limpers in front, often i will shove and get called down by Ax, or KJ QJ and such hands, this is valuable as an early double up will allow you to go far in these micro turbos.  Another thing i noticed is that players are more likely to fold to a standard rais then they are to fold to a shove, dont ask me why but they just are, so if you are trying to pick up the blinds, rather than shoving just rais 3x...gl all</p>
     
  9. hokumfool hokumfool is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 1:18pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>spot on</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 1:35pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Some good advice...the part about raising a hand that is going to get multiple callers is good, especially when it is vulnerable after the flop.  However, no one should be passing on chances to get their chips in when they have an advantage.  I believe you were trying to discuss pot control with good, but not great holdings.  But when you are 90%  to double up, you can't be trying to hang on to a few chips so you still have a chance if you lose.</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 1:58pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Good article. Thanks!</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 2:06pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>for my own reference,</p>
    <p>How buy-ins your considered a dwon swing ? up swing ?</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 2:12pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>lol on the spelling. just woke up. where is my coffee</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 3:44pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>great article. I play a good number of 2$ and 4$ 180's and your advice is right on - especially the part about trying to bet someone off of a flush draw. They never fold and it is a great way to get paid off.</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 6:45pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Q from fookfulohan RE buy ins. I had a 20 straight no cash, which stopped for a few games, and then another 20 straight no cash. I had a lot of mini upswings where in a 20 game stretch there would be maybe 4 wins, 3 seconds and a few 3rds and 4ths.</p>
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 10:59pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>Solid.  Good to know others are observing the same and how bad they play</p>
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 1:50am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>So in everyone's opinion what do you consider a good player is it someone who has a certain ROI% or someone who just plays higher stakes. opinions please</p>
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 2:31am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>hey smokin, not sure. obviously it is harder to have a good roi at higher buy ins. i don't imagine for one second i would have the same roi in 18 mans with a much higher buy in. there are still plenty of really good poker players who stay at low stakes though, for a variety of reasons. </p>
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    May 27th, 2009 (5/27/2009 12:15am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>really good article Thanks!</p>
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    Jun 26th, 2009 (6/26/2009 12:28am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>great article-spot on. I play the micro's because I'm building BR and would get so frustrated at the horrid play and the two outers getting there after I got my chips all in on the flop and was a 90% favorite. Now I'm not going to let it tilt me- I want them to call with those terrible odds and sure sometimes they will get lucky, but be glad since this is were you will make your money in the long run. One bit of advice I would like to add- DON'T SLOW PLAY unless you hit quads or boat on flop and even then I will sometimes bet at it because you will get called. So take them to value town. I got 3rd yesterday in $2.25 180 man sng- everytime I hit the flop I bet and sure enough was called. I flopped a flush and lead out and was called the whole way. You see they love to trap you at this level and they expect you to do the same so they never believe you when you bet.</p>
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    Jul 5th, 2009 (7/5/2009 8:34pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>thanks bloke!</p>
    <p>recently discovered Jenn, so you as well via Jenn,</p>
    <p>your article has really helped me a LOT this weekend!</p>
    <p>I think Vera ust hit it on the head... they never ( or at least barely ever) believe you when you bet.  Just bet out at this level and long term it works out.</p>
    <p>thanks guys!</p>
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    Jul 5th, 2009 (7/5/2009 8:36pm) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>oh yeah... as an ex-pat living in Canadia... who has never chanted this before...</p>
    <p>AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!!!!</p>
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    Aug 24th, 2009 (8/24/2009 12:27am) in reply to thearthurdog

    <p>I started playing poker a year ago, and I'm still struggling at the micro stakes. I think my play has definitely improved, but I continue to find myself losing to people who will play with anything. So I know what he means about the weak Aces, and the draw chasers. I'm going to just keep playing. Can't complain.</p>
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