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Article: Full Tilt Poker Matrix SNG Tournaments

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  1. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 9:31am)

     
  2. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 9:50am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Nice article.  I'm torn on whether these are worth playing.  Unless you really can dominate (winning 3 of the 5 prize pools), you likely will not double your buy in playing, and there is always a chance of finishing out of the money in all 4 matches (which I did a few times).  </p>
    <p>I do agree though, you really do need to win these events to make them worthwhile.  </p>
  3. JackBileDuct JackBileDuct is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 10:56am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>These are not worth playing when looking at $ per hour.  Payouts are just too small in comparison to the buy-in. What they are useful for is practicing SNG strategies and experimentation. As has been noted before, play does differ in the various buy-in levels for SNG's somewhat. The level of play in a $20 SNG is somewhat better than that in a $5. In the case of a Matrix tourney, for $20 you basically get 4X the experience against $20 opponents. If viewed in that light, they might be worth while for somebody on a downswing to re-examine some of their play or the player moving from beginner to intermediate and needing to gain some experience. They could aslo be used for players not used to multi tabling but wanting to get their feet wet without stepping down to a lower buy-in to do so. </p>
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 10:58am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>nice analysis, gl grapsfan</p>
     
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 11:07am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>love the plo matrix. play them everytime they r goin. the 220 and 330.</p>
     
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 11:54am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Let me just get this straight.  In a regular $11 SNG, the winner would receive $45.  But in this format, to win all four SNGs and the matrix bonus would payout $54.</p>
    <p>IMO this does not seem profitable, even if you do only have to buyin once.</p>
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 1:02pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>They are a good variance reducer. I play PLO8 matrix sng's and if I bust out one of the tables, I usually cash at 2 or 3 other tables and sometimes Matrix pool as well. Since you play 4 tables against the same guys you pretty soon get some 'reads'n them. Who is overly aggro, who folds quickly etc.</p>
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 1:33pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Pod, that isn't exactly true, if you win all 4 tournaments, you are the "dominatrix" and you would receive 100% of the matrix pool prize (so basically you would get 6 1st place finishes instead of 5).</p>
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 2:07pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>POD, you cant compare an $11 matrix to an $11 sng, the matrix is as if u are playing 4 sngs of approxamitly 1/4 the buy in. if u are rolled for $11 sngs u can defenitly play higher than $11 matrixs</p>
     
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 3:18pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Definitely true that you should play a higher-buy Matrix than you normally would play a single-table SNG.  Whether or not you should play a straight-up 4x the buy-in (a $5 SNG player would play a $20 Matrix) depends on how good you are multi-tabling.</p>
     
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    Nov 11th, 2008 (11/11/2008 6:37pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>yea Pod the Bod in a 11 sng 1st pays 45 but in a 11 matrix its like plays 2s</p>
     
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    Nov 12th, 2008 (11/12/2008 10:28am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>good article. It sounds kinda like the poker superstars idea. I'd think it'll cut down on variance..def about to try these out. </p>
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    Nov 12th, 2008 (11/12/2008 3:03pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I think that the MATRIX is great</p>
    <p>for example the 110$ entry u have 4 games.</p>
    <p>If u cash in 1 you win 90$ thats 20$ short of the buy in.</p>
    <p>If u cash in top 3 in the others its all profit. (+total matrix)</p>
    <p>bad beats come and go and when playing 110$ SNG's ur AA can be cracked by 44..well in Matrix u take the bad beat into consideration and thats when u have other chances to get even-win money.</p>
    <p>Yes, its true u dont win as much but is it worth playing and is it profitable.. COURSE!</p>
    <p>i enjoy them...GL</p>
     
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    Nov 20th, 2008 (11/20/2008 11:14am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I played this fad once-saw alot of donlish plays would rather play 4 solid 1-table SnG's and make a better profit.</p>
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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 10:43am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I Just played a $33 Matrix, won three of the four SNGs and still only split the Matrix fund with another player, due to his superior knockouts!  This seems wrong to me.  Wouldn't it be better to have 2 points for survival and 1 for KOs, seeing as KOs are more down to luck?</p>
    <p>Still, they're a good concept if you have, say, an hour and a half and want some multi-table action.  Serious SNGers will be better off elsewhere though, I think.</p>
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