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Article: The Hate Group

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  1. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Dec 31st, 2009 (12/31/2009 12:26pm)

     
  2. StayCalm StayCalm is offline

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    Jan 18th, 2010 (1/18/2010 9:42pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Awesome article, great mix of truth and humor</p>
  3. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Jan 18th, 2010 (1/18/2010 9:45pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I'm not much of a chatter, and you won't find this advice anywhere in a book, because it doesn't promote the game.  If you want to tangle in the chatbox and have a little fun, then I have one word for ya:</p>
    <p>Illogic.  </p>
    <p>If you want to tilt someone in a nasty fashion, use an argument devoid of logic.  The reaction you get is priceless.</p>
    <p>When you beat KK with A4, then "it's about time I won a coinflip", or "no aces flopped last hand, so I felt they would hit this hand".... this even works better if the flop last time contained an ace.  </p>
    <p>"It was suited."  "It wasn't suited so I had TWO chances to hit a flush, not just one."  "I had a feeling."  "I have all the chips now, so I must be better than you."  These one-liners work.</p>
    <p>If they can't beat your argument with logic, they will become very frustrated and tilty.  Plus you aren't getting mad, your goal is now truly to get them upset, and use your newfound image to your advantage, so you won't get caught up in defending your plays.</p>
    <p>One last word of advice if you are going to use the chatbox as a weapon:  Fight right, nice left.  You want the player on your right to call your 3-bet value raise out of frustration, but you want to be able to continue to steal from the player on your left.</p>
  4. snaggs snaggs is offline

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    Jan 18th, 2010 (1/18/2010 9:52pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>gold as usual.  </p>
    <p>"In poker, if everyone else thinks you’re stupid, that’s awesome!"</p>
    <p>so easy to lose sight of this fact. Also funny that I think the smarter one is the harder this lesson is to learn, yet contradictorily how smart can you be if you consistently let your ego get in the way of a winning strategy? </p>
    <p>PS  Often times I am the guy who ain't so damn smart.</p>
     
  5. ggIFyouCALL ggIFyouCALL is offline

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    Jan 18th, 2010 (1/18/2010 10:10pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>i'll stick with the any publicity is good publicity and keep on trollin</p>
  6. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Jan 18th, 2010 (1/18/2010 11:41pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>This is a great article. Very well done Grap. Are you a writer?</p>
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  7. stnnine stnnine is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 12:03am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>win or lose, why read the chat? Unless you think you'll win every hand the chat is irrelivant. Even a micro player gets that. Duh!</p>
  8. sullivanjm sullivanjm is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 12:18am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Great article and totally true here are some of my funnier one liners that you are free to use at anytime gets them so ticked off and the rest of the table has a laugh</p>
    <p>Villian: "your a donk"</p>
    <p>You: "how true in fact do you have anymore carrots sorry chips i can have"</p>
    <p>Villian: "Your a fish"</p>
    <p>You: "Sorry can you repeat didnt quite get you must be all this water in my ears"</p>
    <p>Villian: How could you call that</p>
    <p>You: Oh dont you know its the button which says Call if you press that the site puts those chips in the middle. If you need further assitance please let me know</p>
    <p>When i get a bad beat I simple try to say nice hand gl guys for the rest of the tourney</p>
  9. sgildea25 sgildea25 is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 9:22am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I came to a realization last week in the live vs. online world. In the online world, no one can tell if you are a "nice guy/lady" or a "bad guy/lady" because a computer screen separates the two of you. So therefore it's in your best interest to "X" out of chat permanently. Don't even read it. Just turn off Player Chat and Observer Chat at your table (unless it's a Private tourney with friends. Then it's fair game...)</p>
    <p>While playing live, be the "nice guy/lady" because this works to your advantage against weak players. Because you are "nice," they won't play back at you. In reality, you are a "jerk" in the poker sense because you are c-betting, check-raising, and doing all the "mean" things a seasoned player will pull. However, if you do all this with the "nice" persona at the table, your opp. will almost always put you on the nuts/made hand because in his/her head, "This person is too nice to bluff/raise without a monster."</p>
    <p>Just a thought....</p>
    <p>Nice article Graps!</p>
  10. poker763 poker763 is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 9:33am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Well written.</p>
  11. sweetlady57 sweetlady57 is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 10:26am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I just do not talk to people at all, seems to work.</p>
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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 10:38am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Great article.  I will usually also try to attract the wrath of a ranter if he is going after the fish at the table.  I don't want him to drive the fish away with his insults, so I intercede.  I find the line, "Maybe this limit's too hard for you.  Maybe you should drop down a level or two." usually does the trick nicely.</p>
  13. DAMIMABEAST DAMIMABEAST is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 10:51am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>VERY WELL WRITTEN SIR THANKS ONCE AGAIN</p>
  14. BlueRenegade BlueRenegade is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 4:06pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Am I the only way who plays with chat off?  Or does everybody else in the world actually give a crap about what some random person on the Internet thinks about them?</p>
    <p>Just wonderin'.</p>
  15. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Jan 19th, 2010 (1/19/2010 7:36pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Blue, the point(s) of the article is that:</p>
    <p>a) you shouldn't give a crap about what some random person thinks</p>
    <p>b) what someone else says can be very valuable information to use to your advantage</p>
    <p>Nothing wrong with that.</p>
    <p>But I often advise people with tilt problems, or if they find the box distracting, to turn it off.  Nothing wrong with that either.</p>
    <p>Thanks for reading, everyone.</p>
     
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  16. JACK WELCH JACK WELCH is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2010 (2/2/2010 8:42am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I find complimenting a third player at the table - especially after a bad play - often goes a long way toward tilting my "target."  Your game also must be capable of adjusting to the response of the tilt-worthy. - JDW</p>
  17. dapalma150 dapalma150 is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2010 (2/2/2010 2:42pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Very nice article sir.</p>
     
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