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Article: Minnesota Calls for ISP Blocking of Internet Gambling Sites

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  1. Dan Dan is offline Administrator

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 7:50pm)

     
  2. bad4yahealth bad4yahealth is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 9:02pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>This is the same agency that raided a restuarant in the town I live in and confiscated dice and antique slot machines. The dice was used for beat the bartender night. If you rolled higher then the bartender your drink was free if not you payed. The antique slot machines were used in the Good Old Days promotion. Where you pulled the machine to determine if you got to order off the 50's,60's,70's or 80's menu and also pay the listed price.</p>
  3. Sigma_0420 Sigma_0420 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 9:44pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>MN is faced with a 2.5 billion dollar budget deficit and this is what our state chooses to spend money on?  Forget the schools, roads, police, and general infastrucutre.  Let's go get the evil poker players.  Time to make some phone calls and write some letters ... it's that or take up drugs again.  Ugh.</p>
  4. 13Jayhawk13 13Jayhawk13 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 9:48pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>Sounds like they are acting by the book so far.  Of course, the definition of "gambling" is pretty squirely.  This code section pretty much says that if any ISP regulated by FTC (i.e., umm, all of them, I think), is given notice that websites are using their services to "gamble" then the ISP must stop permitting those websites from being used by the service. </p>
    <p>18 U.S.C. sec. 1084(d) "When any common carrier, subject to the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission, is notified in writing by a Federal, State, or local law enforcement agency, acting within its jurisdiction, that any facility furnished by it is being used or will be used for the purpose of transmitting or receiving gambling information in interstate or foreign commerce in violation of Federal, State or local law, it shall discontinue or refuse, the leasing, furnishing, or maintaining of such facility, after reasonable notice to the subscriber, but no damages, penalty or forfeiture, civil or criminal, shall be found against any common carrier for any act done in compliance with any notice received from a law enforcement agency. Nothing in this section shall be deemed to prejudice the right of any person affected thereby to secure an appropriate determination, as otherwise provided by law, in a Federal court or in a State or local tribunal or agency, that such facility should not be discontinued or removed, or should be restored."</p>
  5. dolfan dolfan is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 10:41pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>In Billy Baxter v. the IRS, Poker was deemed not gambling, But, A GAME OF SKILL.  This was determined by the US Supreme Court, when Mr. Baxter sued the IRS and the tax code because they were taxing winnings as gambling winnings which resulted in a much higher rate.  If the US Supreme Court can state that poker is NOT gambling, then that must be the law of the land.</p>
     
  6. rexmundi1337 rexmundi1337 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 10:43pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>as a country, we need to lead by example.  i hope this first domino doesn't fall.  especially because we shouldn't ban access to any sites on the internet.  china already does that, amongst others.  </p>
    <p>joke banning access to poker as a state priority. </p>
  7. nativerez nativerez is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2009 (4/29/2009 11:12pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>Well, it looks like I'm going to have to play at the casino's and card clubs here again.  Our whole country is in crisis and our good state of Minnesota is worried about us playing poker online. What a bunch of BS</p>
  8. elimherr elimherr is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 12:11am) in reply to Dan

    <p>Sounds like communism to me when are we going to have to start wearing swastikas </p>
     
  9. Chickenbrad Chickenbrad is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 12:25am) in reply to Dan

    <p>My girlfirend is from minesota..in the words of rickey richardo "She'd got some splainin too do"</p>
    <p>Seriously though, I'm going to ask her to plead to her relatives to vote against this injustice! There are so many things that are of a much higher concern than people gambling online!!!</p>
  10. ThisIsMyTable ThisIsMyTable is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 3:10am) in reply to Dan

    <p>I  CURRENTLY  RESIDE  IN  MINNECHODA, ROCHESTER 2BE EXACT, AND AS IF IT WASNT LAME ENUFF HERE ALREADY???  THIS IS  REDICULOUS!!!...  THIS  STATE  SUCKS, THAT  IDEA  SUCKS AND THERES A RECESSION AND ALOT  OF  TUFF  TIMES EVERYWHERE AND ALL WERE THINKIN ABOUT  IN THIS  LAME STATE IS CRACKIN THE POKER PLAYERS OUT OF EXISTENCE , CUZZZZZ  WERE  THE  PROBLEM  RIGHT????...  UR  TRASH FOR DOIN THIS MINNESOTA, AND IF I CANT PLAY ONLINE FOR REAL  SOON, ILL MOVE OUT OF THIS STATE AND  NEVER RETURN!!!!  ROT  IN  POKER  HELL  ALL WHO  HAVE  AGREED  TO  THIS  LAW,  YOU  FISHCAKE DONKEYS!!!</p>
  11. sprstoner sprstoner is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 5:39am) in reply to Dan

    <p>but i thought ppl fought oversees to protect our freedom, apparently they are doing a shitty job. :)</p>
     
  12. LuckiernU LuckiernU is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 6:40am) in reply to Dan

    <p>I am boycotting Canterbury card club. They are behind this.</p>
  13. GeorgeMorris GeorgeMorris is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 7:07am) in reply to Dan

    <p>I am a Minnesotan, and this is some of the dumbest out of nowhere shit I have ever heard of. IF this shit goes through I am looking for out of state residence when my lease is up.</p>
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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 7:25am) in reply to Dan

    <p>Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to denote not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are closely related to, yet distinct from, the concept of freedom of thought. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech".</p>
    <p>The right to freedom of speech is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). The ICCPR recognizes the right to freedom of speech as "the right to hold opinions without interference. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression."</p>
  15. Looee Looee is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 9:09am) in reply to Dan

    <p>If you live in Minnesota be sure to E-mail the governor and any other government officials and tell them how you feel.  I also E-mailed my ISP, Qwest, and told them that I would be canceling my service with them if they followed through with the states request.  They e-mailed me back something that said they didn't block any sites and had no intention of blocking anything.</p>
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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 9:30am) in reply to Dan

    <p>The government hates the fact that their monopoly on gambling is threatened.</p>
     
  17. MnMatusow MnMatusow is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 10:07am) in reply to Dan

    <p>OK today it's banning online gaming in Minnesota. What will it be tomorrow... ? People have fought and died to defend freedom. It's a slap in the face of every American, esp to those who have served.</p>
    <p>This isn't the old USSR or today's China, is it? hmmmmmmmmmm</p>
  18. StoneColdNz StoneColdNz is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 10:10am) in reply to Dan

    <p>GG Minnesota</p>
  19. Borovich05 Borovich05 is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 10:21am) in reply to Dan

    <p>i've never hated my state more than today...which governor should we email by the way? haha</p>
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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 3:22pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>I lived in MN...  I loved it there.  Good thing I live in Vegas now!</p>
  21. moriAArty moriAArty is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 8:38pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>This is unbelievable. I feel like I live in a communist county, not a free country and state in the 21st century. I simply do not understand why these fukkkkkkers insist on taking our rights away on something as harmless as online poker. Who and what is it hurting that I am sitting in my own living room playing a game of poker. I'm just perplexed to say the least. My congressman,senators and Tim Pawlenty are going to get an earful from me, all Minnesotans need to speak and be heard. </p>
  22. JKamikazeKid JKamikazeKid is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 10:02pm) in reply to Dan

    <p>Online poker is plenty harmful to the US government.  They don't see a penny of it....and the politicians aren't smart enough to create regulatory measures to tax this either.  I mean, seriously...look at what they're doing with the taxpayer's money already....</p>
    <p>If they can't regulate it, may as well ban it.</p>
    <p>Welcome to the U.S.S.A.</p>
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