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  1. Adam Adam is online now Emperor

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    Aug 2nd, 2011 (8/2/2011 11:06pm)

    You can view the page at http://www.pocketfives.com/content.p...ng-Poker-Rooms
     
  2. JMaster130 JMaster130 is offline

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    Aug 2nd, 2011 (8/2/2011 11:17pm) in reply to Adam

    I like the move and wish you guys the best as you continue to adjust and reevaluate during these difficult times.
     
  3. leedsrounder leedsrounder is offline

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    Aug 2nd, 2011 (8/2/2011 11:45pm) in reply to JMaster130

    Nice work P5's keep up the good work.
  4. templers templers is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 12:48am) in reply to leedsrounder

    respect
  5. Cal Cal is offline Co-Founder of PocketFives

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 12:51am) in reply to templers

    Thanks for the support guys. It's been a pretty crazy few months for me as I've been out of poker for years, mainly working in the fantasy sports industry with Riley. Adam ended up taking a job with Protos and staying in poker after we sold the site so thanks to him we weren't completely lost. The current state of online poker for US players is sad, but it will get better and it will be regulated. Hopefully that will only take a couple of years. In the meantime, we've got a strong team in place behind the scenes and will be constantly improving our offering on P5s. I'm excited for the opportunity to take this site to the next level. It's good to be back!
     
  6. famous5ives famous5ives is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 1:53am) in reply to Cal

    2nd to last paragraph sounds interesting. I like this decision by p5s, too many people lost jobs and money to still be promoting last option sites as if theres no risk
  7. MeJahAndOmaha MeJahAndOmaha is offline doesn't talk to roommates

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 3:01am) in reply to RGC2005

    Nice article sir.

    Happy to hear that P5's weighs their collective responsibility to the community rather than just milking whatever ad revenue they can get while they can still get it. Kudos
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Aug 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 AM
  8. Reoknows Reoknows is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 3:18am) in reply to MeJahAndOmaha

    As long as this site is still up and running I'll be here every day. <3 p5s
  9. SamuraiPlaya SamuraiPlaya is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 4:23am) in reply to Reoknows

    Cant really blame this site for distancing itself from US sites and the seeming witch hunt and political mess that online poker is in the US right now.
     
  10. H0LDiT H0LDiT is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 4:52am) in reply to SamuraiPlaya

    keep up the good work guys
  11. Adam Adam is online now Emperor

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 5:06am) in reply to H0LDiT

    Really great to see all the positive responses here. We've been kicking this around in discussions for close to 3 months now - really the whole time since the original team took back over the site. The bottom line for me is that we built this community up from nothing by being a voice from within the player community. We're disgusted by the way our friends in the US have been affected by Black Friday and everything since, and of course we're among those who have had our balances hanging in the wind. We just don't feel it's appropriate right now to continue to market real money poker in the states with things being as unstable as they've been. We hope to see things get better, and soon, so that we can all go back to worrying more about the game and less about what politicians are doing...
     
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  12. norv norv is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 8:31am) in reply to Adam

    i really like this site, it is soooooo easy to get around and find what you want, so much user friendly compared to others....good luck with the new direction
  13. THE__N__JM THE__N__JM is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 9:27am) in reply to norv

    Great site thanks guys!
  14. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 11:43am) in reply to THE__N__JM

    dept. of homeland security breaks down my fear for me nice and simply, in bright coded colors. maybe since this is a largely an american issue, & given this has been our most popular scale in recent fear-mongering episodes, could you paint us a more vivid picture? should i be feeling yellow, orange, or mountain dew code red? given renewed management, i nominate lenny to concoct such a system, especially given his insider experience on the hill
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  15. bustuw72 bustuw72 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 5:32pm) in reply to skiwert76

    Just one more place who turns there back on the USA. I'm not sure saying great article makes sense here. Probably will be in a different language soon!

    The 2p2 site just got a boost in revenue and in traffic. Not trying to be a jerk here just being completely honest.

    remember p5's you were built by us USA guys who have been left behind!
    Edited By: bustuw72 Aug 3rd, 2011 at 05:33 PM
     
  16. Popperhead Popperhead is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 5:41pm) in reply to bustuw72

    Good luck Guysa I continue to love the site and cant wait to see what the future holds and hopefully this will rejuvenate the PD section of the site
  17. bustuw72 bustuw72 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 6:01pm) in reply to Popperhead

    I just want to mention I have always been a huge fan of p5 and I may have been a bit harsh, but it just seems every-time I open a forum the USA players get another hit. I do wish you guys luck.
     
  18. Adam Adam is online now Emperor

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 7:12pm) in reply to bustuw72

     
    Originally Posted by bustuw72 View Post

    Just one more place who turns there back on the USA. I'm not sure saying great article makes sense here. Probably will be in a different language soon!

    The 2p2 site just got a boost in revenue and in traffic. Not trying to be a jerk here just being completely honest.

    remember p5's you were built by us USA guys who have been left behind!


    We are absolutely not turning our backs on the USA. Quite the opposite - we don't feel we can recommend these poker rooms in good faith at this time, and we're trying to protect our loyal members in the states from making mistakes that can cost them money.
     
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  19. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 7:29pm) in reply to Adam

     
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    We are absolutely not turning our backs on the USA. Quite the opposite - we don't feel we can recommend these poker rooms in good faith at this time, and we're trying to protect our loyal members in the states from making mistakes that can cost them money.

    Is this based just on what's happened previously? Or have your interactions with the leadership of these sits (ie Merge) made you feel that something is about to happen sooner rather than later?

    Also, along those lines, since you are not receiving any more money from the sites, I'd really like to see P5s take on an investigative role and really get to the bottom of why Merge is still not accepting new US customers at this time. We were led to believe that it was to allow them some time (4-6 wks) to get their financial house in order. Now we're running way past that time and still no answer. I believe some skins have decided that they will not be taking on new US customers at all, while others (ie Lock) have said that its a matter of when, not if.

    I'm of the firm belief that there is an underlying reason that these sites are not sharing with their customer base about why US sign ups have been halted, and in some cases, halted for good. Considering the few options there are for Americans, you'd think they'd be welcoming us with open arms. Could it be, perhaps, that they have the very same concerns about the elevated level of risk and by not allowing more Americans now, they are limiting the scope of the inevitable mess that will ensue?

    IN any case, it would be great to see you all dig deep into this topic.

    Many thanks.
  20. Adam Adam is online now Emperor

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 7:37pm) in reply to TheVillageGrinder

    We don't have any information that you don't have regarding what's going to happen or what's been happening lately. We simply have been evaluating this situation quite a bit lately and came to this conclusion. We're definitely investigating to find out as much as possible about what's going on, though it's not easy to get behind those doors
     
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  21. OU_dlanger610 OU_dlanger610 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 8:01pm) in reply to Adam

    Looking forward to the day that this whole mess is resolved. Keep on keepin on P5s
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  22. gank gank is offline 'tis always ganktober

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 8:23pm) in reply to Adam

     
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    We are absolutely not turning our backs on the USA. Quite the opposite - we don't feel we can recommend these poker rooms in good faith at this time, and we're trying to protect our loyal members in the states from making mistakes that can cost them money.

    Never thought I would see the day when P5's doesn't support any US sites. When you guys started, online poker was shadier, and with the passing of the 2005 law, poker became borderline illegal to play, yet you guys embraced the sites and built a monster around them.

    IMO, you guys working with and promoting UB after all the stuff that happened is far more in bad taste then promoting merge/bodog now.

    Maybe change to Pocketfives.eu ........ just sayin'
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  23. SmokeyCasinos SmokeyCasinos is online now

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 8:28pm) in reply to gank

    Why couldn't you just create a "Do not recommend" or "Play at own risk" section like most casino forums so that new players can stay in the loop?

    And build a SOP for such sites to pass in order to stay advertised?

    It is industry standard to protect the people...
  24. dTm328 dTm328 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2011 (8/3/2011 9:24pm) in reply to gank

     
    Originally Posted by gank View Post

    Never thought I would see the day when P5's doesn't support any US sites. When you guys started, online poker was shadier, and with the passing of the 2005 law, poker became borderline illegal to play, yet you guys embraced the sites and built a monster around them.

    IMO, you guys working with and promoting UB after all the stuff that happened is far more in bad taste then promoting merge/bodog now.

    Maybe change to Pocketfives.eu ........ just sayin'

    i agree 100% this is hilarious like you guys are taking some kind of moral high ground here
  25. laruegg laruegg is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2011 (8/4/2011 4:35pm) in reply to skiwert76

    I have to agree with all these guys....I like this site but gank nails it on the head about UB...the shaddiest of shady, and it was your top banner on every page....

    By not promoting these sites is it really you looking out for the player or you just looking out for P5s?
     
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    Sep 18th, 2011 (9/18/2011 2:39am) in reply to Adam

     
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    We are absolutely not turning our backs on the USA. Quite the opposite - we don't feel we can recommend these poker rooms in good faith at this time, and we're trying to protect our loyal members in the states from making mistakes that can cost them money.

    Appreciate the concern guys but the narrow minded republicans in congress are doing a bang up job protecting us U.S. guys from online poker. Maybe in 20 or 30 years our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness will be given back.

    Rock on free world.
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