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Article: Standing Out in the Poker Crowd

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  1. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 11th, 2009 (4/11/2009 7:50pm)

     
  2. pokerchief29 pokerchief29 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 1:29am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I love plo8.  Are u saying ted seen the flop playing every hand he was dealt in omaha hi/low for a year??</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 4:21am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>the best article ive read from you well written.</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 6:20am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Again... another great article by graps</p>
  5. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 7:18am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Chief, he was playing limit O8, rather than PLO8...but yeah.  Ted Forrest says he played every single hand dealt to him for a year without folding pre-flop, just to get better at reading board textures and playing flops.</p>
     
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  6. shaman_21 shaman_21 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 7:32am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I live in Japan and find your observations obtuse and shallow. I find Japan much more individualized and less a cult of personality that either America or Canada. And by cult of personality I broadly refer to it analguously and not in the strictest political sense.</p>
    <p>Japanese may look the same due to race, but the clothes do not make the man. Perhaps your visit was far too short to firmly grasp the nuances and screaming progressiveness of this society.</p>
    <p>I am a westerner living in Japan.</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 7:41am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>shaman 21 u'r rit</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 8:12am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Idk how you comment on japan and not mention the food? They got the best food in the world! the world!</p>
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  9. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 8:14am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Shaman, I'm certain that my observations were shallow.  I barely talked to anyone other than the people I was working with.  I hope to spend a lot more time there and learn more about the specifics of a country which has always fascinated me.</p>
    <p>If it's so individualized, how come everyone had the exact same suit (again, this is a shallow question...I'm just trying to get an understanding from someone who lives there)?  And I mean, not just the people at the Keio...every suit I saw was black.  Pretty much every tie was black.  Every shirt under the suit was white.  No pinstripes, no cream colors.  Nothing.</p>
     
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 8:41am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Coloured shirts are very popular. Light shades of pink, blue, green lavender are widely used. As the men get older shirts tend to be white for meetings, conferences or interviews. Younger people though are very prone to mixing the colors, the thickness and design of ties. Shoes are huge personal expressions and hair is a high art over here. Traditionally conservative attire is the norm and politeness is to the extreme. Even the language has it's own polite conjugations of verbs which is the norm when speaking. Expression through style though is a point of pride for both sexes. And when it is not evident in office attire or maybe I should say when it is of a more subtle nature in office attire (aided by a more experienced eye that is used to knowing what to look for) the belts, socks, ties, collars, rings, cufflinks, shoes and other accessories are impeccably chosen and often mighty expensive. And if you cannot see it during the week, the weekend is when the gloves come off and the Japanese dress very tastefully and uniquely.... for the most part ;). There are some wackos.</p>
    <p>As for pinstripes..... who wants to wear pinstripes? LOL</p>
    <p>I did not want to seem to harsh to you. If I did I apologize. The article in and of itself is very good. I just felt I had to say that using the Japanese as in analog to a lack of personal expression was inherently flawed.</p>
    <p>I find the sameness of America and Canada with everyone dressing like a hip hop fan, skater, Wall Mart junkie or Wall Street pinhead to be far more bland than the highly stylish Japanese that I know and see every day.</p>
    <p>Keep up the  articles and by all means... come back to Japan it really is an amazing country. Tokyo as a tourist really needs at least weeks.</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 8:58am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Saman: Pinstripes are the shit. Reading abotu the differences in nuances reminds me of the scene in American Pyscho where they compare business cards. </p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 9:04am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>love your articles, keep em coming.</p>
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    Apr 14th, 2009 (4/14/2009 1:49pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>I think I get it Graps</p>
    <p>......if only the United States were as fortunate as Japan (for White people, of course!)</p>
    <p>Multi-culturalism sucks!!!</p>
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    Apr 15th, 2009 (4/15/2009 7:48am) in reply to grapsfan

    <p><a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.kinowear.com/blog/what-asia-taught-me-about-casual-style/">www.kinowear.com/.../what-asia-taught-me-about-casual-style</a></p>
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    Apr 15th, 2009 (4/15/2009 5:16pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>Good article.</p>
    <p>And lol at "Reading abotu the differences in nuances reminds me of the scene in American Pyscho where they compare business cards." Eggshell white anyone?</p>
     
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    May 9th, 2009 (5/9/2009 3:57pm) in reply to grapsfan

    <p>"Being Japanese, almost all had the same hair color, facial features, and build."</p>
    <p>racist and unnecessary imo. I understand making a comment on how you as a foreigner were unable to recognize subtle physical differences between Japanese people, but commenting on the physical characteristics of Japanese people to emphasize the importance of individuality is just factually inaccurate and misses the point I think you were trying to make of the article. Pervading Japanese culture values community and discourages individuality for reasons that have nothing do with "ha[ving] the same hair color, facial features, and build." You make some good points about this after the "sameness," like, "How would you stand out in a crowd when your upbringing and heritage discourages doing just that?"</p>
    <p>I know you didn't mean it in an offensive way, but I think it detracts from the article.</p>
    <p>Besides my nit-picky comment, the article had great insight into individuality in the poker world, a subject that I consider frequently. An interesting follow-up article could be how being a poker player in general inherently reflects Western individualism and the frontier mindset.</p>
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