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Article: Why Intelligent People Sometimes Struggle with Poker

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  1. Jennifear Jennifear is online now

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 9:53am)

  2. rambodave rambodave is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 10:47am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Great article Jen!  You pointed out some very nagging problems that I now look at in a different way.</p>
    <p>Thank you.</p>
  3. hicks1784 hicks1784 is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 11:03am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>This is an amazing article. I deal with this stuff everyday when playing at the low and micro levels , your below average players dont think about representing a hand or playing a hand for value on different streets. So when you try and make a bluff with a hand you have to think about what level of thought the player your playing against is on.</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 11:34am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>again, another excellent article. Thx!</p>
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  5. Whatshoulditbe Whatshoulditbe is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 11:49am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>good article but poker players having people skills? I'm not so sure about this one most I see in interviews etc seemed nervous and awkward </p>
     
  6. Rycky4Golf Rycky4Golf is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 11:57am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Great Job Jen.  Nice way of looking at it.</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 12:06pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>You da you da best</p>
     
  8. L0bstaM0bsta L0bstaM0bsta is offline OT Podcast Host

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 1:52pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>I always knew I was far too intelligent for this game...such catch22's</p>
  9. Micdiddy Micdiddy is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 2:48pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Good article!</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 3:20pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>good article.  good point about trying not to think 2 levels ahead of your opponent...its a key concept.  Also the "Give me guys that are poor, smart, hungry - and no feelings" I've always said that to people.  </p>
     
  11. JustKLLinItQ JustKLLinItQ is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 3:48pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Punkin = G.O.A.T. imo :)</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 6:49pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>I would say the best poker players are the best fisherperson or golfer.</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 6:55pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Great article! Still hope the Yankees fo down this week!!</p>
    <p><3 JEN!</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 6:57pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Nice work Jennifear--really insightful article!</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 7:29pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Good read. TY</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 7:30pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Great article!</p>
    <p>I used to run into this problem all the time in microstakes. I'll be holding something like 8h7h and raise in position getting one caller out of the blinds.</p>
    <p>flop will come 5d6hAd</p>
    <p>villian will minbet (LDO), and I call (good odds on open ender)</p>
    <p>turn Kh</p>
    <p>villian again minbets, and I call (open ended, and now flush draw)</p>
    <p>river 6d (pairs board and possible flush)</p>
    <p>villian minbets again, and I 3bet 10x, just over full pot</p>
    <p>villian snap calls and shows As2s and I'm left wondering where it all when wrong...</p>
    <p>To me, my line looks like I rivered the flush. To him, he has two pair(!) and couldn't possibly dream of folding.</p>
    <p>To counter this, when playing micros now, I just pretend like I never learned how to bluff or slow play. If I flop a monster, like a nut flush or quads, I lead out, and if I get 3bet, I 4bet.</p>
    <p>Rather than trying to outplay the level 1 thinker, I find it is best to just play very straight forward and let him make all the mistakes. FWIW this makes it much easier to mass multitable. Just sit back, forget evertything you thought you knew about poker, and watch the chips stack up.</p>
    <p>Again, great article!</p>
     
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 8:29pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Nice article Jennifear. Keep em comin.</p>
      
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 10:11pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>As always Jenn's stuff is well worth reading. TY Jennifear.</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 10:31pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>insanely brilliant</p>
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    Aug 25th, 2009 (8/25/2009 11:02pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Nice job, Jen, I loved this article.</p>
    <p>Jennifear rocks.  </p>
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    Aug 26th, 2009 (8/26/2009 12:19am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Good article.</p>
    <p>From the responses,I see that most P5ers are of above average intelligence.  Sweet.</p>
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    Aug 26th, 2009 (8/26/2009 1:36am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>good article, helped</p>
     
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    Aug 26th, 2009 (8/26/2009 6:18am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>As Nate Avenson said...dont be too much ahead</p>
    <p>of your opponent. Very nice post JEN !!!</p>
    <p>please check my recent blog for some crazy hands</p>
    <p>happend to me in the 50k last night:</p>
    <p><a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.pocketfives.com/abakus73/crazy-hands-lead-to-crazy-results-4617880">www.pocketfives.com/.../crazy-hands-lead-to-crazy-results-4617880</a></p>
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    Aug 26th, 2009 (8/26/2009 3:51pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Great Article Jen.</p>
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    Aug 27th, 2009 (8/27/2009 4:19am) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>Excellent!!! This article was definitely 3 levels above me!</p>
  26. jackofpoker jackofpoker is offline

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    Aug 27th, 2009 (8/27/2009 12:56pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>the moral of the story is..</p>
    <p>If you are intelligent - you are going to lose.. No wonder Jenn won so much!!</p>
  27. jackofpoker jackofpoker is offline

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    Aug 27th, 2009 (8/27/2009 12:58pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>:)</p>
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    Aug 29th, 2009 (8/29/2009 3:20pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>im pretty sure intelligent people own poker tables... and the not so intelligent people pay their rent... its a good thing PHIL IVEY isnt intelligent or else we wudnt have nething to look forward to this november haha</p>
     
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    Sep 8th, 2009 (9/8/2009 7:37pm) in reply to Jennifear

    <p>outstanding article!!</p>
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