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$10 MTT ITM - What's your play...

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  1. Goodburger Goodburger is offline

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    Dec 17th, 2008 (12/17/2008 11:53pm)

    Just got moved to the table a few hands back but FLDuhawk had opened the 1st hand to 4000, the next hand to 8000, then now 6000...

    pokerstars Game #23021463946: Tournament #127009398, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (1000/2000) - 2008/12/18 0:50:35 ET
    Table '127009398 4' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: FLDuhawk (45802 in chips)
    Seat 2: Kauffmanj (46068 in chips)
    Seat 3: Care42 (51305 in chips)
    Seat 4: jaybay512512 (16564 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larryball (12672 in chips)
    Seat 6: User ID 00 (28439 in chips)
    Seat 7: 82_dohn_jo (25539 in chips)
    Seat 8: Dirk Reems (46038 in chips)
    Seat 9: WKDinSurrey (36581 in chips)
    FLDuhawk: posts the ante 250
    Kauffmanj: posts the ante 250
    Care42: posts the ante 250
    jaybay512512: posts the ante 250
    Larryball: posts the ante 250
    User ID 00: posts the ante 250
    82_dohn_jo: posts the ante 250
    Dirk Reems: posts the ante 250
    WKDinSurrey: posts the ante 250
    82_dohn_jo: posts small blind 1000
    Dirk Reems: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to User ID 00 [Jc Ah]
    WKDinSurrey: folds
    FLDuhawk: raises 4000 to 6000
    Kauffmanj: folds
    Care42: folds
    jaybay512512: folds
    Larryball: folds
    User ID 00: ????????????????????
  2. stealth stealth is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 12:32am) in reply to Goodburger

    I consider myself a good post flop player especially in position, so I would simply call check the flop texture and try to take the pot away post flop.

    Going over the top would pot commit yourself right here and I dont like to get commited with AJ.
  3. Faecal Matter Faecal Matter is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 12:51am) in reply to Goodburger

    calling is by far the worst play. fold or shove. Normally I'd say fold to utg+1 raise with no reads but if you've got a read that he's opening more than he should then sure shove it in. neither are terrible but calling is.
     
  4. SCTrojans SCTrojans is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 12:56am) in reply to Goodburger

    I prefer to make a min raise to find out where I am at. If he makes a strong aggressive all-in move I will fold because he probably has aces maybe kings... If he calls then I try to hit the flop and go from there.... and if he folds I probably won the pot with the best hand. Hope this helps.
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  5. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 1:01am) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    I prefer to make a min raise to find out where I am at. If he makes a strong aggressive all-in move I will fold because he probably has aces maybe kings... If he calls then I try to hit the flop and go from there.... and if he folds I probably won the pot with the best hand. Hope this helps.

    this is horrendous advice. dont put 40% of ur stack in pre just to fold. i would push allin in this spot.
  6. Faecal Matter Faecal Matter is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 1:05am) in reply to poisoneye1986

     
    Originally Posted by poisoneye1986 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    I prefer to make a min raise to find out where I am at. If he makes a strong aggressive all-in move I will fold because he probably has aces maybe kings... If he calls then I try to hit the flop and go from there.... and if he folds I probably won the pot with the best hand. Hope this helps.

    this is horrendous advice. dont put 40% of ur stack in pre just to fold. i would push allin in this spot.

    I like this advice actually. by min raising you're representing KK+ and if he moves all in he has to have AA because you're repping KK and thus you won't have the pot odds to call his all-in with AJ vs AA making it an easy fold.
     
  7. jpm986 jpm986 is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 2:51am) in reply to Goodburger

    This thread is making me LOL. You guys want him to minraise, for 10k, when he 14 BB's? Unreal.

    Insta fold this IMO. Wait for a better spot with 12 BB's. If you were down to 7, I'd ship it, but you have to fold this here.
  8. andersd andersd is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 3:43am) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    I prefer to make a min raise to find out where I am at. If he makes a strong aggressive all-in move I will fold because he probably has aces maybe kings... If he calls then I try to hit the flop and go from there.... and if he folds I probably won the pot with the best hand. Hope this helps.

    Do you really think he is serious about this post?

    I would shove/fold, never call here.
  9. Rocky Rocky is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 3:44am) in reply to stealth

     
    Originally Posted by stealth View Post

    I consider myself a good post flop player especially in position, so I would simply call check the flop texture and try to take the pot away post flop.

    Going over the top would pot commit yourself right here and I dont like to get commited with AJ.

    lmao please never flat call, obv you should consider yourself a horrible preflop player
     
  10. taesamlee taesamlee is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 3:44am) in reply to Goodburger

    I would either push all-in or fold... min-raising in this spot is such a horrible play.... what is it going to do? his stack is much bigger than yours so he could be smooth calling his aces or be calling with 78 suited so it really doesn't give you anymore information.... I would either push all-in and put the pressure back on him, seeing how he would have to call and risk a good portion of his stack... or you fold and wait for a better had.. but with the antes in there and seeing how I am always trying to put myself in a situation to win and not just survive I am pushing in this situation
  11. Goodburger Goodburger is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 11:43am) in reply to Goodburger

    I pretty much immediately shoved given the previous 3 hands of him opening to 4k 8k and this hand 6k thinking he's probbaly a terrible player and opening anyhting suited and remotely connecting, or any ace. He snap called with K10s and won.

    Was just seeing if this was as standard of shove/fold as I thought it was, and seeing who all would shove and who all would fold.
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  12. Randomizer Randomizer is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 11:57am) in reply to Goodburger

    Is this really what P5's is coming to? ...Sigh:(
     
  13. Denty Denty is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2008 (12/18/2008 12:09pm) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    I prefer to make a min raise to find out where I am at. If he makes a strong aggressive all-in move I will fold because he probably has aces maybe kings... If he calls then I try to hit the flop and go from there.... and if he folds I probably won the pot with the best hand. Hope this helps.

    someone just got L'd in the A

    this is completely player dependent for me. if I've ever once seen the player raise with a hand < AJ (KJ/QT/A2-AT), i ship all day. no reads, I probably fold and wait to just shove some suited cards in late position. also if hes a habitual donator according to pokerdb then ill ship
     
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