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  1. MrCasino MrCasino is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 12:19am)

    6 handed, i start with 100k in chips, 4 other stacks have 60-80k and chip leader has 140k... blinds 1500/3k i open to 8225 with QQ, ive opened a lil more than the others, but not a bad image...the bb calls with about 80k. flop is 235 and he leads out 12k, with 62k behind.....how do you guys play qq here? i decide that his lead out is complete air or a hand trying to find out where he's out like 77, 88, 99...so i decide to flat to win a big bet off of him on the turn, or make him commit the pot n stack him....the turn brings the death 6....so its 235, 6 now...and he leads 21k...leaving himself 40k. Now what do ya'll do here? I'll post my thoughts n what i did in about 15 mins
     
  2. GrayFOX22 GrayFOX22 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 12:29am) in reply to MrCasino

    You could jam on the flop. It would look weaker than if you raise his bet like 3x or something. He may decide that you could have AJ+ in your hand and make a call with 77-99, it is also possible that he wanted to see a flop with TT or JJ before putting any money in and would for sure call here. But that depends on him and his style of play. Flatting is not bad to try to earn an extra bet on a later street, but I prefer: jamming>flatting>3 x'ing>.....folding????? I think that on the turn you should jam. He could very well continue to take this line with 77-99, but I wouldn't expect to get called very often by anything that you beat.
     
  3. MrCasino MrCasino is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 1:00am) in reply to GrayFOX22

    yes i could shove flop to look weaker, i deicded on turn that he couldnt have 44, or a set because he'd most likely check raise flop, therefore i shove turn to protect my hand, happy with how big the pot already is....he folds 99
     
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  4. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 1:13am) in reply to MrCasino

     
    Originally Posted by MrCasino View Post

    yes i could shove flop to look weaker, i deicded on turn that he couldnt have 44, or a set because he'd most likely check raise flop, therefore i shove turn to protect my hand, happy with how big the pot already is....he folds 99

    if you put him on 77-99, then itd be fine to just get it in on the turn. but then again, if i had a good feeling a guy had an overpair to the board there, I think its much easier to get in all the chips on the flop considering nobody was really that deep, and so many cards could come on the turn that bother me
  5. undertheradar undertheradar is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 1:19am) in reply to MrCasino

    I think you go with your initial read of mid pocket pair and push.
  6. warden warden is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 1:28am) in reply to MrCasino

    jam the flock

    as played i still get it in on the turn
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  7. stevie444 stevie444 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 2:45am) in reply to MrCasino

    Shove flop. Looks like Ax and lots of turn cards enable him to fold weak overpairs that he would have stacked off with on the flop.
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  8. taypaur taypaur is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 2:48am) in reply to MrCasino

    So are you saying that papaharkin is MrCasino? Since i was at this table and now the exact hand ur speaking of

    Here's the hand for you--

    pokerstars Game #21659942540: Tournament #116137138, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/11/01 0:14:33 ET
    Table '116137138 4' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 2: PapaHarkin (126694 in chips)
    Seat 3: zacman51 (117240 in chips)
    Seat 6: deburr (62417 in chips)
    Seat 7: tRaMp$d0PrAy (144711 in chips)
    Seat 8: BloodyAces24 (82708 in chips)
    Seat 9: danxxx1 (67230 in chips)
    PapaHarkin: posts the ante 300
    zacman51: posts the ante 300
    deburr: posts the ante 300
    tRaMp$d0PrAy: posts the ante 300
    BloodyAces24: posts the ante 300
    danxxx1: posts the ante 300
    tRaMp$d0PrAy: posts small blind 1500
    BloodyAces24: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to tRaMp$d0PrAy [Kh 4c]
    danxxx1: folds
    PapaHarkin: raises 5225 to 8225
    zacman51: folds
    deburr: folds
    tRaMp$d0PrAy: folds
    BloodyAces24: calls 5225
    *** FLOP *** [5s 3c 2h]
    BloodyAces24: bets 12000
    PapaHarkin: calls 12000
    *** TURN *** [5s 3c 2h] [6s]
    BloodyAces24: bets 21000
    PapaHarkin: raises 78000 to 99000
    BloodyAces24 said, "99 nh"
    BloodyAces24: folds
    Uncalled bet (78000) returned to PapaHarkin
    PapaHarkin collected 85750 from pot
    PapaHarkin: doesn't show hand
    PapaHarkin said, "phew"
    PapaHarkin said, "almost folded"
    PapaHarkin said, "QQ"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 85750 | Rake 0
    Board [5s 3c 2h 6s]
    Seat 2: PapaHarkin collected (85750)
    Seat 3: zacman51 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: deburr (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: tRaMp$d0PrAy (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: BloodyAces24 (big blind) folded on the Turn
    Seat 9: danxxx1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  9. Niceguy Niceguy is offline I will find you.

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:04am) in reply to MrCasino

    lol lol lol lol did you just out yourself for MA'ing?
     
    Originally Posted by MrCasino View Post

    6 handed, i start with 100k in chips, 4 other stacks have 60-80k and chip leader has 140k... blinds 1500/3k i open to 8225 with QQ, ive opened a lil more than the others, but not a bad image...the bb calls with about 80k. flop is 235 and he leads out 12k, with 62k behind.....how do you guys play qq here? i decide that his lead out is complete air or a hand trying to find out where he's out like 77, 88, 99...so i decide to flat to win a big bet off of him on the turn, or make him commit the pot n stack him....the turn brings the death 6....so its 235, 6 now...and he leads 21k...leaving himself 40k. Now what do ya'll do here? I'll post my thoughts n what i did in about 15 mins

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:04am) in reply to taypaur

    wups?

    queue "posting hand for a friend" reply
  11. JBT449 JBT449 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:06am) in reply to MrCasino

    looooooooooooooooooooooool
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  12. SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:08am) in reply to JBT449

    omg lol this is after he made a few posts complaining about people threebetting him way more since he got ranked and him not liking it

    dramabomb?!?!
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  13. cmkpics cmkpics is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:10am) in reply to SEABEAST

    i was very curious as to why this wasnt posted in normal HH form considering you always post them in standard form..wow
  14. slicknastyAK slicknastyAK is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:14am) in reply to cmkpics

    gg mrcasino. lol multiaccounter?
     
  15. theczar19 theczar19 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:20am) in reply to slicknastyAK

    uhhh.... really?
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  16. RaidenRadio RaidenRadio is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:22am) in reply to MrCasino

    I thought this thread would be 3 pages before I could even post a reply. Asleep at the wheel?
  17. Pghfan987 Pghfan987 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:25am) in reply to RaidenRadio

    What the hell is going on? Surely this isn't as it seems. I mean who would say "oh man I was at the 100R FT tonight and here is this tough decision I had" when people can actually see who was at the FT.
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  18. Niceguy Niceguy is offline I will find you.

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:26am) in reply to RaidenRadio

    Halloween most people are drunk. Bump it in the morning to get it going.
  19. pokerjamers pokerjamers is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:27am) in reply to MrCasino

    fyi papa harkin sucks and always talks shit specifically at me before i speak a single word at the table..... anyways i doubt its casino based on talking to both at the table but wow this is weird. toolin out on ambien
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  20. Wretchy Wretchy is offline whatslogic

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:30am) in reply to pokerjamers

    Yeah, def see them talking to each other all the time, maybe hes askin for a friend
     
  21. cmkpics cmkpics is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:32am) in reply to MrCasino

     
    Originally Posted by MrCasino View Post

    6 handed, i start with 100k in chips, 4 other stacks have 60-80k and chip leader has 140k... blinds 1500/3k i open to 8225 with QQ, ive opened a lil more than the others, but not a bad image...the bb calls with about 80k. flop is 235 and he leads out 12k, with 62k behind.....how do you guys play qq here? i decide that his lead out is complete air or a hand trying to find out where he's out like 77, 88, 99...so i decide to flat to win a big bet off of him on the turn, or make him commit the pot n stack him....the turn brings the death 6....so its 235, 6 now...and he leads 21k...leaving himself 40k. Now what do ya'll do here? I'll post my thoughts n what I did in about 15 mins

    i pretty much think this will take any argument away that is wasnt him..
  22. cmkpics cmkpics is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:33am) in reply to Wretchy

     
    Originally Posted by Wretchy View Post

    Yeah, def see them talking to each other all the time, maybe hes askin for a friend

    or he could be talkin to himself in an attempt to look inconspicuous..smart people do know how to cheat well..well for a period of time
  23. K-Rock2525 K-Rock2525 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:34am) in reply to Wretchy

    According to the pokerdb. Mrcasino hasnt played a tournament on stars since 9/12/2008. Kind of odd if you look at papaharkin db too, plays nothing but high stakes since 9/13/2008. Just a thought....
     
  24. The Universe The Universe is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:36am) in reply to K-Rock2525

    id say its very unlikely he multi-accounts and is very very likely he posted this for a friend in a stupid way.
     
  25. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:38am) in reply to MrCasino

    mrcasino on stars plays nearly every single day of 2008 until september 12th, mid wcoop, when he decided, "meh, really feel like a prolonged break"

    papaharkin on stars, who had played A GRAND TOTAL OF TEN DAYS UNTIL MID SEPTEMBER DURING THE WCOOP IN 2008, played the 10th, 11th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th , 19th, 20th, 21st, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of september, and then the 3rd, 4th, 6th , 7th 8th, 9th10th, 11th, 12th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th, 27th and now the 31st of october.

    the tenth, both plays played the 300 PLO wcoop , but overlapping since then appears sparse.

    highly coincidental...maybe he just has a twin? well, maybe another?

    jj's prolly crackin a big ol' smile, something to finally top the gbmantis ablackcar bragpost.

    vwp.
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  26. cmkpics cmkpics is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:38am) in reply to The Universe

     
    Originally Posted by The Universe View Post

    id say its very unlikely he multi-accounts and is very very likely he posted this for a friend in a stupid way.

    what kind of logic is that? narrow minded disbelief under all circumstances logic? why would he post saying he will answer as to what HE did?

    oh yeah and why did papaharkin start right away at high stakes?
  27. Ajeff007 Ajeff007 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:38am) in reply to K-Rock2525

     
    Originally Posted by K-Rock2525 View Post

    According to the pokerdb. Mrcasino hasnt played a tournament on stars since 9/12/2008. Kind of odd if you look at papaharkin db too, plays nothing but high stakes since 9/13/2008. Just a thought....

    Say it aint so

    But at the same time the whole irony of all this is funny.

    As a wise man named Homer Simpson once said..."D'oh!"
     
  28. PizzityPizzwnd PizzityPizzwnd is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:38am) in reply to MrCasino

     
    Originally Posted by MrCasino View Post

    I'll post my thoughts n what i did in about 15 mins

    still waiting brah. why'd u flake on your own thread.
     
  29. slicknastyAK slicknastyAK is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:39am) in reply to K-Rock2525

     
    Originally Posted by K-Rock2525 View Post

    According to the pokerdb. Mrcasino hasnt played a tournament on stars since 9/12/2008. Kind of odd if you look at papaharkin db too, plays nothing but high stakes since 9/13/2008. Just a thought....

    lolz
     
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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 3:52am) in reply to slicknastyAK

    Historically stupid error
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