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$11 - $20k Guarantee on Stars - 39 people left...5/39...WWYD

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  1. XxxMaYiToxxX XxxMaYiToxxX is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 8:50pm)

    Hey everyone just wanted input on your thoughts here......I know it was spewy to call his shove after my 3 bet....but looked him up to see if he may have pushed with a small pair or weaker Ace.......he ended up catching a flush for the FML story...but oh well....First place was $6.3k and if i was right here i would have been ChipLeader with 39 left.....Thoughts?

    pokerstars Game #56000084118: Tournament #402010586, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (3600/7200) - 2011/01/15 21:31:43 ET
    Table '402010586 210' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Widow_17 (98084 in chips)
    Seat 2: kzsantos (172426 in chips)
    Seat 3: marciocid (197646 in chips)
    Seat 5: XxxMaYiToxxX (325565 in chips)
    Seat 6: Batmanisback (182042 in chips)
    Seat 7: BelikovDU (330862 in chips)
    Seat 8: harbour2000 (490672 in chips)
    Seat 9: 69daybyday (226537 in chips)
    Widow_17: posts the ante 900
    kzsantos: posts the ante 900
    marciocid: posts the ante 900
    XxxMaYiToxxX: posts the ante 900
    Batmanisback: posts the ante 900
    BelikovDU: posts the ante 900
    harbour2000: posts the ante 900
    69daybyday: posts the ante 900
    BelikovDU: posts small blind 3600
    harbour2000: posts big blind 7200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to XxxMaYiToxxX [Qh Ac]
    69daybyday: folds
    Widow_17: folds
    kzsantos: folds
    marciocid: raises 8280 to 15480
    XxxMaYiToxxX: raises 31308 to 46788
    Batmanisback: folds
    BelikovDU: folds
    harbour2000: folds
    marciocid: raises 149958 to 196746 and is all-in
    XxxMaYiToxxX: calls 149958
    *** FLOP *** [Jd 2s 7h]
    *** TURN *** [Jd 2s 7h] [7s]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd 2s 7h 7s] [9s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    marciocid: shows [Qs As] (a flush, Ace high)
    XxxMaYiToxxX: shows [Qh Ac] (a pair of Sevens)
    marciocid collected 411492 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 411492 | Rake 0
    Board [Jd 2s 7h 7s 9s]
    Seat 1: Widow_17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: kzsantos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: marciocid showed [Qs As] and won (411492) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: XxxMaYiToxxX showed [Qh Ac] and lost with a pair of Sevens
    Seat 6: Batmanisback (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: BelikovDU (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: harbour2000 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: 69daybyday folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. TrueMetalMan TrueMetalMan is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:00pm) in reply to XxxMaYiToxxX

    I might lay it down/ Being that you did a full 3x 3b... but that also might make him think your weak and shove light. So it could go both ways. It's really up to your read of the person.

    What a shitty way to get crippled.
  3. AJyowler AJyowler is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:01pm) in reply to XxxMaYiToxxX

    I'm folding there personally... too big of a stack to be hoping he has a lower pp a hand in which you're still behind...
  4. Folderol Folderol is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:02pm) in reply to XxxMaYiToxxX

    Not like I'm in our position often, but I think there are far better ways to play for that much of your stack. At this point, you're most likely either dominated or flipping, and 5/39, there's tons of time left to build your stack. I think I fold.
  5. dalix88 dalix88 is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:06pm) in reply to Folderol

    I would 3b smaller, but apart from that you played it fine....move to bad beats? (j/k)
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  6. subpar67 subpar67 is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:07pm) in reply to TrueMetalMan

     
    Originally Posted by TrueMetalMan View Post

    I might lay it down/ Being that you did a full 3x 3b... but that also might make him think your weak and shove light. So it could go both ways. It's really up to your read of the person.

    What a shitty way to get crippled.

    not this

    your 3 bet is way to big...make it more like 37k. Not saying this is a terrible call with the AQ but it makes it much harder to let it go with such a big 3 bet.
     
  7. SSG SSG is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:30pm) in reply to subpar67

     
    Originally Posted by subpar67 View Post

    not this

    your 3 bet is way to big...make it more like 37k. Not saying this is a terrible call with the AQ but it makes it much harder to let it go with such a big 3 bet.

    this, not a terriable call, a 3bet of around 35k looks nice. might have folded to the shove myself though...
  8. JerrysWorld JerrysWorld is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 9:56pm) in reply to SSG

    I would have called if it wasnt so deep into a the tournament. But I just think thats not the time to make a stand.
  9. TrueMetalMan TrueMetalMan is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 10:00pm) in reply to subpar67

     
    Originally Posted by subpar67 View Post

    not this

    your 3 bet is way to big...make it more like 37k. Not saying this is a terrible call with the AQ but it makes it much harder to let it go with such a big 3 bet.

    I didn't say that it was good just as played kinda thought, I 3b a little smaller also. But all I am sayin is like if he did 3b here a 3x I mean you think he might shove with aj or kq type of hands?

    I never really 3x like that unless I know I have the best hand and I know he's going to shove into a silly looking raise like that.

    Or possibly fold a hand like aq?
  10. TheBulldog3 TheBulldog3 is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 10:31pm) in reply to TrueMetalMan

    3b/call >>>> 3b/fold imo.
  11. tb4rizzl tb4rizzl is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2011 (1/16/2011 11:09pm) in reply to TheBulldog3

    you were also deep enough to flat with position and play the flop accordingly, but obv you have to pick good spots to switch it up like this. personally i will sometimes flat in spots like this bc they rarely occur, its the kind of spot that if he jams you only cover the bottom of his range therefor you dont really know what to do (unless you have reads that tell you otherwise). i dont think its bad to flat broadways with 40BBs until theres like 3 tables left bc then its do or die time aka raise every chance you get.

    edit: idk about the 3 tables left part, i'm just throwing it out there, i concider a flat here and sometimes i would do it i'l leave it at that haha.
    Edited By: tb4rizzl Jan 16th, 2011 at 11:10 PM
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    Jan 17th, 2011 (1/17/2011 1:15am) in reply to JerrysWorld

     
    Originally Posted by JerrysWorld View Post

    I would have called if it wasnt so deep into a the tournament. But I just think thats not the time to make a stand.

    def not this, this is really really faulty reasoning... OP I don't like ur 3 bet sizing at all, its way too big. In fact what are u trying to accomplish here at all with a 3 bet? Is AJ calling ur 3 bet? With the stacks this deep I think a flat is a good play here in position from the CO... Given the size of ur 3 bet u priced urself into call, but u are never ahead here unless villain is really spewy.
  13. TheBulldog3 TheBulldog3 is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2011 (1/17/2011 1:19am) in reply to herbstreet24

     
    Originally Posted by herbstreet24 View Post

    def not this, this is really really faulty reasoning... OP I don't like ur 3 bet sizing at all, its way too big. In fact what are u trying to accomplish here at all with a 3 bet? Is AJ calling ur 3 bet? With the stacks this deep I think a flat is a good play here in position from the CO... Given the size of ur 3 bet u priced urself into call, but u are never ahead here unless villain is really spewy.

    this
  14. XxxMaYiToxxX XxxMaYiToxxX is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2011 (1/17/2011 1:34am) in reply to TheBulldog3

     
    Originally Posted by subpar67 View Post

    not this

    your 3 bet is way to big...make it more like 37k. Not saying this is a terrible call with the AQ but it makes it much harder to let it go with such a big 3 bet.

    Thanks i agree, i should 3 bet alot smaller....and i did feel kinda priced in...


     
    Originally Posted by tb4rizzl View Post

    you were also deep enough to flat with position and play the flop accordingly, but obv you have to pick good spots to switch it up like this. personally i will sometimes flat in spots like this bc they rarely occur, its the kind of spot that if he jams you only cover the bottom of his range therefor you dont really know what to do (unless you have reads that tell you otherwise). i dont think its bad to flat broadways with 40BBs until theres like 3 tables left bc then its do or die time aka raise every chance you get.

    edit: idk about the 3 tables left part, i'm just throwing it out there, i concider a flat here and sometimes i would do it i'l leave it at that haha.


    Thanks, yeah i could def flatted in position and Cbet flop may have just taken it down, or if he shoves on my cbet then prolly woulda been easier to let go.


     
    Originally Posted by herbstreet24 View Post

    def not this, this is really really faulty reasoning... OP I don't like ur 3 bet sizing at all, its way too big. In fact what are u trying to accomplish here at all with a 3 bet? Is AJ calling ur 3 bet? With the stacks this deep I think a flat is a good play here in position from the CO... Given the size of ur 3 bet u priced urself into call, but u are never ahead here unless villain is really spewy.

    Thanks, kicking my self now for 3 betting to big and even more for calling the shove.....
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    Jan 17th, 2011 (1/17/2011 2:01am) in reply to XxxMaYiToxxX

    folding would be aweful
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