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12 left in 50K guranteed on stars, super sick spot. whats the correct play?

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  1. supa_donk supa_donk is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 3:40pm)

    pokerstars Game #********: Tournament #*********, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (3500/7000) - 2008/10/** 22:13:34 ET
    Table '116555065 73' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: flush634 (218180 in chips)
    Seat 2: Volmers (186015 in chips)
    Seat 3: Trapasaurus (146209 in chips)
    Seat 4: HERO (474655 in chips)
    Seat 5: ael1979 (201076 in chips)
    Seat 8: goodtymeroll (95544 in chips)
    flush634: posts the ante 700
    Volmers: posts the ante 700
    Trapasaurus: posts the ante 700
    HERO: posts the ante 700
    ael1979: posts the ante 700
    goodtymeroll: posts the ante 700
    goodtymeroll: posts small blind 3500
    flush634: posts big blind 7000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO [Qc Qd]
    Volmers: folds
    Trapasaurus: raises 14000 to 21000
    HERO: raises 21000 to 42000
    ael1979: folds
    goodtymeroll: folds
    flush634: folds
    Trapasaurus: calls 21000
    *** FLOP *** [3h Ks Ac]
    Trapasaurus: checks
    HERO: ?????????

    In hindsight a bigger raise preflop could of been in order but as played how do you handle this flop and Trapasaurus's check? this spot is seriously sick imo but maybe its clear what the right play is to others.
     
  2. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 3:43pm) in reply to supa_donk

    raise bit more pre, black out the hand number, not torny ID. lol.
     
  3. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 3:46pm) in reply to supa_donk

    I try to check it down. If he leads any street I snap-shove.

    EDIT

    I suppose this needs some explanation. Basically I think you're WA/WB on this flop and won't get any value out of anything. So you can turn your hand into a bluff on the flop but I think you'll have more success repping a stronger range of hands if you're led into. Your action looks like KK/AA if you take this line but you're going to get played with a LOT if you lead the flop.
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  4. supa_donk supa_donk is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 3:48pm) in reply to the_snail03

     
    Originally Posted by the_snail03 View Post

    raise bit more pre, black out the hand number, not torny ID. lol.

    but what about as played snail? whats your play then
     
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  5. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 4:05pm) in reply to supa_donk

    I think the only option we have is to check and try and get to showdown as cheap as possible, prolly calling any bets from villain, unless we have any reads to tell us otherwise???
     
  6. People_Mover People_Mover is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 4:23pm) in reply to the_snail03

    not that sick.... just check
     
  7. supa_donk supa_donk is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 4:28pm) in reply to the_snail03

     
    Originally Posted by the_snail03 View Post

    I think the only option we have is to check and try and get to showdown as cheap as possible, prolly calling any bets from villain, unless we have any reads to tell us otherwise???

    showdown as cheap as possible yes, but what if i check flop and villain shoves some smallish 77-1010 pair on turn then HERO is left with a tough decision.... but also a case could be made for taking these hands out of his range because he would 4 bet overshove pre with one of those most likely..
     
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  8. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 8:44pm) in reply to supa_donk

    normal 3-bet pre is much better, i hate the minraise as he is now priced in with all his ace-broadway or whatever else he might raise w there.

    i check back on flop, and put him in if he checks again on the turn. if he bets turn i think it is a fold.
  9. JINYX JINYX is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2008 (11/5/2008 8:56pm) in reply to djkelly69

    Raise to 63.35k pre, as played check. You won't get called by worse and everything that beat's you calls. Re-eval the turn. After that it's all player dependent and how solid you feel your read is.
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