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2.20 180 - QQ in the SB - Active Limpers

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  1. 88XIN88 88XIN88 is offline

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    Mar 4th, 2011 (3/4/2011 10:12pm)

    Both limpers have limped for the last 3 hands.

    Do you raise or shove given your stack size? I wanted to raise but I'm out of position. Should i be bloating the pot to 600 pre and playing post?

    Seat 1: the mtsn (3390 in chips)
    Seat 2: 88Xin88 (2850 in chips)
    Seat 3: k.lauz9 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 4: clifford123 (5147 in chips)
    Seat 5: extensa101 (2790 in chips)
    Seat 6: Pavel_Frants (1365 in chips)
    Seat 8: FHM1987 (2250 in chips)
    Seat 9: JUANSPILBERG (3410 in chips)
    88Xin88: posts small blind 75
    k.lauz9: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to 88Xin88 [Qs Qh]
    clifford123: calls 150
    extensa101: calls 150
    Pavel_Frants: folds
    FHM1987: folds
    JUANSPILBERG: folds
    the mtsn: folds
    Mr.B5 is connected
    88Xin88: ??????????????????

    I wish to improve my 180 turbo man game



    HAND #2

    Seat 1: the mtsn (3190 in chips)
    Seat 2: 88Xin88 (3300 in chips)
    Seat 3: k.lauz9 (1440 in chips)
    Seat 4: clifford123 (7472 in chips)
    Seat 6: Pavel_Frants (720 in chips)
    Seat 7: Mr.B5 (1255 in chips)
    Seat 8: FHM1987 (1950 in chips)
    Seat 9: JUANSPILBERG (3535 in chips)
    the mtsn: posts small blind 100
    88Xin88: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to 88Xin88 [Jh Kd]
    k.lauz9: folds
    clifford123: folds
    Pavel_Frants: folds
    Mr.B5: folds
    FHM1987: raises 1750 to 1950 and is all-in
    JUANSPILBERG: folds
    mike15199 is connected
    the mtsn: folds
    88Xin88:???????



    HAND #3


    Seat 1: the mtsn (3090 in chips)
    Seat 2: 88Xin88 (1350 in chips)
    Seat 3: k.lauz9 (1440 in chips)
    Seat 4: clifford123 (7472 in chips)
    Seat 5: mike15199 (1445 in chips)
    Seat 6: Pavel_Frants (720 in chips)
    Seat 7: Mr.B5 (1255 in chips)
    Seat 8: FHM1987 (4000 in chips)
    Seat 9: JUANSPILBERG (3535 in chips)
    88Xin88: posts small blind 100
    k.lauz9: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to 88Xin88 [3h 3d]
    clifford123: folds
    mike15199: folds
    Pavel_Frants: folds
    Mr.B5: raises 1055 to 1255 and is all-in
    FHM1987: folds
    JUANSPILBERG: folds
    the mtsn: folds
    88Xin88:???????????
    Edited By: 88XIN88 Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:15 PM
     
  2. Arctic Arctic is offline

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    Mar 4th, 2011 (3/4/2011 10:31pm) in reply to 88XIN88

    1st hand push, next 2 I muck. I don't like giving away chips in 50/50 situations as the likely case of the second and third hands. 1st hand, its a gongshow, esp because they are turbos. Likely some donk with Ace-Junk will call, or K-J or even a lower pocket pair. Raising to 600, they might call, they might fold... flop comes and you have no idea where you are at, and the pot is already almost as much as your stack. Very difficult situation to play, you are basically pot committed to call a shove if an Ace or King binks on the flop.
  3. SSG SSG is offline

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    Mar 4th, 2011 (3/4/2011 10:58pm) in reply to Arctic

     
    Originally Posted by Arctic View Post

    1st hand push, next 2 I muck. I don't like giving away chips in 50/50 situations as the likely case of the second and third hands. 1st hand, its a gongshow, esp because they are turbos. Likely some donk with Ace-Junk will call, or K-J or even a lower pocket pair. Raising to 600, they might call, they might fold... flop comes and you have no idea where you are at, and the pot is already almost as much as your stack. Very difficult situation to play, you are basically pot committed to call a shove if an Ace or King binks on the flop.

    THIS。。I don't mind pushing hand 2/3 but not really keen calling with those.
  4. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Mar 4th, 2011 (3/4/2011 11:23pm) in reply to SSG

    Agree with them ^

    1st hand just shove, you are likely to get called by worse. Next 2 are easy folds.
  5. schumer182 schumer182 is offline

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    Mar 5th, 2011 (3/5/2011 12:30am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    I shove all my prime hands in these esp. early......some fish or 2 allways call with worse..
  6. winnie2002 winnie2002 is offline

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    Mar 5th, 2011 (3/5/2011 12:43am) in reply to schumer182

    1st hand is deffo push then 2nd is close but fold dependant on previous action.

    3rd hand I'm calling everytime. I'll take my chance with less than 7BBs.

    Leave it any longer you have no fold equity and will be getting it in with a lot less than a pair.
  7. hornyfreak hornyfreak is offline

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    Mar 5th, 2011 (3/5/2011 12:50am) in reply to winnie2002

    1st is an easy push, you will get some ridiculous calls.

    Second would depend on the villain; if he is pushing a lot, it might be a call. Most of the time, I am simply folding there.

    Third again is a fold in my opinion. You will be in late positions after this hand, and you can push lighter from late positions.
  8. dalix88 dalix88 is offline

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    Mar 5th, 2011 (3/5/2011 2:57am) in reply to hornyfreak

    1st hand I would make it ~700 pre to try to extract max value, although shoving seems fine as well (might even be better depending on how often limpers limp-call 20bb shoves at these stakes). Fwiw I would just shove JJ as there are just too many bad flops. 2 and 3 both fold (3 is closer).
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  9. 88XIN88 88XIN88 is offline

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    Mar 5th, 2011 (3/5/2011 5:40am) in reply to dalix88

    Thx guys.

    I really felt like I should adjust my bet sizing really good to start winning rather than always shoving.

    Hand #2 is a def fold, u guys are right. I should be shoving instead if I can.

    Hand #3 I felt was wayyyyy to close because My M was less than 5.


    Thanks again guys!!!!!!
     
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