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  1. McManus1337 McManus1337 is offline

    Oak Park, IL
    United States

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    Nov 17th, 2010 (11/17/2010 11:41am)

    Hand #1
    -Final 2 Tables I think that I let this pseudo bubble get to me....Easy call??

    Full Tilt Poker Game #25626587211: $18,000 Guarantee (198503246), Table 75 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 06:19:55 ET - 2010/11/17
    Seat 1: Steakhorse (31,986)
    Seat 2: Shooting72 (181,696)
    Seat 3: jolR (85,103)
    Seat 5: chilenogjr (228,079)
    Seat 7: NORDSTJERNEN (42,691)
    Seat 8: i am mittens (101,542)
    Seat 9: MyBologne (135,583)
    Steakhorse antes 600
    Shooting72 antes 600
    jolR antes 600
    chilenogjr antes 600
    NORDSTJERNEN antes 600
    i am mittens antes 600
    MyBologne antes 600
    Steakhorse posts the small blind of 2,500
    Shooting72 posts the big blind of 5,000
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jolR [4d 4s]
    dwamzack420 (Observer): nh
    jolR raises to 10,000
    chilenogjr folds
    NORDSTJERNEN has 15 seconds left to act
    NORDSTJERNEN has timed out
    NORDSTJERNEN folds
    NORDSTJERNEN is sitting out
    i am mittens folds
    MyBologne folds
    Steakhorse folds
    NORDSTJERNEN has returned
    Shooting72 has 15 seconds left to act
    Shooting72 calls 5,000
    *** FLOP *** [6s 6h Qd]
    Shooting72 has 15 seconds left to act
    Shooting72 bets 171,096, and is all in
    jolR has 15 seconds left to act
    jolR has requested TIME
    jolR folds
    Uncalled bet of 171,096 returned to Shooting72
    dwamzack420 (Observer): nord are u still going to help me bro?
    Shooting72 mucks
    Shooting72 wins the pot (26,700)

    Hand #2
    -I think this was played so pathetically and that it is even more of a trivial call than hand 1...is a better line check/shoving??

    Full Tilt Poker Game #25626538867: $18,000 Guarantee (198503246), Table 75 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 06:16:01 ET - 2010/11/17
    Seat 1: Steakhorse (39,886)
    Seat 2: Shooting72 (161,196)
    Seat 3: jolR (110,114)
    Seat 5: chilenogjr (207,868)
    Seat 7: NORDSTJERNEN (29,691)
    Seat 8: i am mittens (111,942)
    Seat 9: MyBologne (145,983)
    Steakhorse antes 500
    Shooting72 antes 500
    jolR antes 500
    chilenogjr antes 500
    NORDSTJERNEN antes 500
    i am mittens antes 500
    MyBologne antes 500
    jolR posts the small blind of 2,000
    chilenogjr posts the big blind of 4,000
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jolR [9h Js]
    NORDSTJERNEN has 15 seconds left to act
    NORDSTJERNEN folds
    i am mittens folds
    MyBologne folds
    Steakhorse folds
    Shooting72 folds
    jolR has 15 seconds left to act
    jolR raises to 11,211
    chilenogjr calls 7,211
    *** FLOP *** [Th 5h Jc]
    jolR has 15 seconds left to act
    jolR bets 10,900
    chilenogjr raises to 196,157, and is all in
    jolR has 15 seconds left to act
    jolR has requested TIME
    jolR folds
    Uncalled bet of 185,257 returned to chilenogjr
    chilenogjr mucks
    chilenogjr wins the pot (47,722)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 47,722 | Rake 0
    Board: [Th 5h Jc]
    Seat 1: Steakhorse folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: Shooting72 (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: jolR (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: chilenogjr (big blind) collected (47,722), mucked
    Seat 7: NORDSTJERNEN folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: i am mittens folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: MyBologne folded before the Flop

    Thanks again. Sorry for my noobishnesss.
  2. CJDeman CJDeman is offline

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    Australia

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    Nov 17th, 2010 (11/17/2010 11:52am) in reply to McManus1337

    Hand 1 I fold without any reads. Having said that, your problems started with your preflop raise, which is just inviting a call, which will make the flop hard to play unless you hit a set. In late position I would just shove pre flop, utg as you were, I fold.

    Hand 2 there are so many draws out there that there are a ton of hands you are ahead of. I dont like a check raise - on a board that drawy I dont want to give a free card. Your lead actually looks weak, which may have induced his bet - I would probably lead for around 14,000 here. As played I call and fade a ton of outs.
     
  3. McManus1337 McManus1337 is offline

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    Nov 17th, 2010 (11/17/2010 9:59pm) in reply to CJDeman

    Thanks CJ I agree with your thoughts.

    Hand 2 SB v BB is my raise going to be called very often? Is limping a better play? I had thought about shoving but I feel like when I open shove deep I get snapped off by sick hands too much.

    Is open folding ok or is that way too nitty?
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  4. Diggs Diggs is offline

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    Nov 17th, 2010 (11/17/2010 10:13pm) in reply to McManus1337

    I think the raise is fine in the first hand but an open fold is probably better with your stack size. Never open limping...

    As played I don't think you can call his open ship, monkeys will shove up with a random Q here in my experience.

    Not too sure on the second hand. I like the raise but would have cbet more on the flop. As played I call here because I think he'll show up with draws or a spazzed T here more often than a better J.
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