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  1. both times i had a gut feeling i was beat or flipping. but since i had them covered i called. standard or should i really be folding here this deep?

    pokerstars Game #43674499101: Tournament #268003230, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (8000/16000) - 2010/05/05 20:45:35 PT [2010/05/05 23:45:35 ET]

    Table '268003230 85' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

    Seat 1: Kebeni Feni (234280 in chips)

    Seat 3: jah_josh (910558 in chips)

    Seat 4: trojanmana (360502 in chips)

    Seat 5: whitefang159 (987569 in chips)

    Seat 6: Kriston9 (740124 in chips)

    Seat 8: eloterie (352194 in chips)

    Seat 9: TaTze1985 (306603 in chips)

    Kebeni Feni: posts the ante 2000

    jah_josh: posts the ante 2000

    trojanmana: posts the ante 2000

    whitefang159: posts the ante 2000

    Kriston9: posts the ante 2000

    eloterie: posts the ante 2000

    TaTze1985: posts the ante 2000

    TaTze1985: posts small blind 8000

    Kebeni Feni: posts big blind 16000

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to trojanmana [Js Jd]

    jah_josh: folds

    trojanmana: raises 24000 to 40000

    whitefang159: folds

    Kriston9: folds

    eloterie: folds

    TaTze1985: calls 32000

    Kebeni Feni: raises 192280 to 232280 and is all-in

    trojanmana: raises 126222 to 358502 and is all-in

    TaTze1985: folds

    Uncalled bet (126222) returned to trojanmana

    *** FLOP *** [Kh 9h 4c]

    *** TURN *** [Kh 9h 4c] [5d]

    *** RIVER *** [Kh 9h 4c 5d] [8c]

    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    Kebeni Feni: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)

    trojanmana: shows [Js Jd] (a pair of Jacks)

    Kebeni Feni collected 518560 from pot

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 518560 | Rake 0

    Board [Kh 9h 4c 5d 8c]

    Seat 1: Kebeni Feni (big blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (518560) with a pair of Queens

    Seat 3: jah_josh folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 4: trojanmana showed [Js Jd] and lost with a pair of Jacks

    Seat 5: whitefang159 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 6: Kriston9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 8: eloterie (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 9: TaTze1985 (small blind) folded before Flop

    PokerStars Game #43672819505: Tournament #268003230, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (3000/6000) - 2010/05/05 19:42:20 PT [2010/05/05 22:42:20 ET]

    Table '268003230 85' 9-max Seat #6 is the button

    Seat 1: tolis_cr9 (118166 in chips)

    Seat 2: The_Boyz_ SC (62810 in chips)

    Seat 3: RenRad 01 (100977 in chips)

    Seat 4: trojanmana (195339 in chips)

    Seat 5: TINGUI (38731 in chips)

    Seat 6: [pkr]Sasso (53988 in chips)

    Seat 7: loekielook (108287 in chips)

    Seat 8: 66WXW (232373 in chips)

    Seat 9: TaTze1985 (231634 in chips)

    tolis_cr9: posts the ante 750

    The_Boyz_ SC: posts the ante 750

    RenRad 01: posts the ante 750

    trojanmana: posts the ante 750

    TINGUI: posts the ante 750

    [Pkr]Sasso: posts the ante 750

    loekielook: posts the ante 750

    66WXW: posts the ante 750

    TaTze1985: posts the ante 750

    loekielook: posts small blind 3000

    66WXW: posts big blind 6000

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to trojanmana [Js Jd]

    TaTze1985: folds

    tolis_cr9: folds

    The_Boyz_ SC: folds

    RenRad 01: folds

    trojanmana: raises 8899 to 14899

    TINGUI: folds

    [Pkr]Sasso: raises 38339 to 53238 and is all-in

    loekielook: raises 54299 to 107537 and is all-in

    66WXW: folds

    trojanmana: calls 92638

    *** FLOP *** [6s Ah Th]

    *** TURN *** [6s Ah Th] [8h]

    *** RIVER *** [6s Ah Th 8h] [Tc]

    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    loekielook: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Queens and Tens)

    trojanmana: shows [Js Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)

    loekielook collected 108598 from side pot

    [Pkr]Sasso: shows [9s As] (two pair, Aces and Tens)

    [Pkr]Sasso collected 172464 from main pot

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 281062 Main pot 172464. Side pot 108598. | Rake 0

    Board [6s Ah Th 8h Tc]

    Seat 1: tolis_cr9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 2: The_Boyz_ SC folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 3: RenRad 01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 4: trojanmana showed [Js Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens

    Seat 5: TINGUI folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 6: [Pkr]Sasso (button) showed [9s As] and won (172464) with two pair, Aces and Tens

    Seat 7: loekielook (small blind) showed [Qs Qd] and won (108598) with two pair, Queens and Tens

    Seat 8: 66WXW (big blind) folded before Flop

    Seat 9: TaTze1985 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. There's some nits that will tell you fold, but doubt many are going to fold in that situation at the $4.40 buy in. The second hand maybe a fold after a raise, reraise shove, and rereraise shove, good chance your flipping against two hands, or flipping against one and one is totally dominating you. Both hands just coolers, imo.