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both times i had a gut feeling i was beat or flipping. but since i had them covered i called. standard or should i really be folding here this deep?
pokerstars Game #43674499101: Tournament #268003230, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (8000/16000) - 2010/05/05 20:45:35 PT [2010/05/05 23:45:35 ET]
Table '268003230 85' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Kebeni Feni (234280 in chips)
Seat 3: jah_josh (910558 in chips)
Seat 4: trojanmana (360502 in chips)
Seat 5: whitefang159 (987569 in chips)
Seat 6: Kriston9 (740124 in chips)
Seat 8: eloterie (352194 in chips)
Seat 9: TaTze1985 (306603 in chips)
Kebeni Feni: posts the ante 2000
jah_josh: posts the ante 2000
trojanmana: posts the ante 2000
whitefang159: posts the ante 2000
Kriston9: posts the ante 2000
eloterie: posts the ante 2000
TaTze1985: posts the ante 2000
TaTze1985: posts small blind 8000
Kebeni Feni: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trojanmana [Js Jd]
jah_josh: folds
trojanmana: raises 24000 to 40000
whitefang159: folds
Kriston9: folds
eloterie: folds
TaTze1985: calls 32000
Kebeni Feni: raises 192280 to 232280 and is all-in
trojanmana: raises 126222 to 358502 and is all-in
TaTze1985: folds
Uncalled bet (126222) returned to trojanmana
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9h 4c]
*** TURN *** [Kh 9h 4c] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9h 4c 5d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kebeni Feni: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
trojanmana: shows [Js Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
Kebeni Feni collected 518560 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 518560 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 9h 4c 5d 8c]
Seat 1: Kebeni Feni (big blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (518560) with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: jah_josh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: trojanmana showed [Js Jd] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: whitefang159 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kriston9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: eloterie (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: TaTze1985 (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #43672819505: Tournament #268003230, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (3000/6000) - 2010/05/05 19:42:20 PT [2010/05/05 22:42:20 ET]
Table '268003230 85' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: tolis_cr9 (118166 in chips)
Seat 2: The_Boyz_ SC (62810 in chips)
Seat 3: RenRad 01 (100977 in chips)
Seat 4: trojanmana (195339 in chips)
Seat 5: TINGUI (38731 in chips)
Seat 6: [pkr]Sasso (53988 in chips)
Seat 7: loekielook (108287 in chips)
Seat 8: 66WXW (232373 in chips)
Seat 9: TaTze1985 (231634 in chips)
tolis_cr9: posts the ante 750
The_Boyz_ SC: posts the ante 750
RenRad 01: posts the ante 750
trojanmana: posts the ante 750
TINGUI: posts the ante 750
[Pkr]Sasso: posts the ante 750
loekielook: posts the ante 750
66WXW: posts the ante 750
TaTze1985: posts the ante 750
loekielook: posts small blind 3000
66WXW: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trojanmana [Js Jd]
TaTze1985: folds
tolis_cr9: folds
The_Boyz_ SC: folds
RenRad 01: folds
trojanmana: raises 8899 to 14899
TINGUI: folds
[Pkr]Sasso: raises 38339 to 53238 and is all-in
loekielook: raises 54299 to 107537 and is all-in
66WXW: folds
trojanmana: calls 92638
*** FLOP *** [6s Ah Th]
*** TURN *** [6s Ah Th] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [6s Ah Th 8h] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
loekielook: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
trojanmana: shows [Js Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
loekielook collected 108598 from side pot
[Pkr]Sasso: shows [9s As] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
[Pkr]Sasso collected 172464 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 281062 Main pot 172464. Side pot 108598. | Rake 0
Board [6s Ah Th 8h Tc]
Seat 1: tolis_cr9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: The_Boyz_ SC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: RenRad 01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: trojanmana showed [Js Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 5: TINGUI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: [Pkr]Sasso (button) showed [9s As] and won (172464) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 7: loekielook (small blind) showed [Qs Qd] and won (108598) with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 8: 66WXW (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: TaTze1985 folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
There's some nits that will tell you fold, but doubt many are going to fold in that situation at the $4.40 buy in. The second hand maybe a fold after a raise, reraise shove, and rereraise shove, good chance your flipping against two hands, or flipping against one and one is totally dominating you. Both hands just coolers, imo.
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