no real history - couple different decision spots on hand. comment on any of them.

and what do we want to do on river. is there any reason to worry about hearts? is it a fold on flop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #29481011011: $48,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (229021801), Table 8 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:50:05 ET - 2011/03/30
Seat 1: littleone_biz (5,055)
Seat 2: RGarrido8 (5,908)
Seat 3: JamsLaNoche (4,767)
Seat 4: AmSlim22 (6,075)
Seat 5: Haagseharry8 (6,195)
Seat 6: thereal_bandito (6,485)
Seat 7: makne87 (7,160)
Seat 8: PainInDeAss (4,865)
Seat 9: DiegoCardoso (5,660)
DiegoCardoso posts the small blind of 40
littleone_biz posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AmSlim22 [Td Jd]
RGarrido8 folds
JamsLaNoche has 15 seconds left to act
JamsLaNoche folds
AmSlim22 raises to 240
Haagseharry8 folds
thereal_bandito folds
makne87 folds
PainInDeAss has 15 seconds left to act
PainInDeAss folds
DiegoCardoso folds
littleone_biz has 15 seconds left to act
littleone_biz raises to 400
AmSlim22 calls 160
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2h 5s]
littleone_biz bets 560
AmSlim22 calls 560
*** TURN *** [Jh 2h 5s] [Tc]
littleone_biz has 15 seconds left to act
littleone_biz checks
AmSlim22 has 15 seconds left to act
AmSlim22 bets 955
littleone_biz calls 955
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2h 5s Tc] [7h]
littleone_biz checks
AmSlim22 ?

The only hands you're looking to get value out of would be QQ+. I would imagine QQ+ would either lead or c/r the turn, unless villian smelled a set, at which point he would look to get to showdown cheap. With no reads, I prob bitch up and check back the river.

 

Originally Posted by Burying_Luck

Oh and as played I like everything on all streets tbh.

agreed.

I bet/c 1/7th pot on river

 

Originally Posted by Appst08

agreed.

I bet/c 1/7th pot on river

Why 1/7th?

 

Originally Posted by wackyJaxon

Why 1/7th?

less you bet more bluffs you get in

Disclaimer: I'm not very good at poker but I'm gonna try to start studying more.

1. I wouldn't be worried about hearts here and would bet river, if he has them just unlucky.

2. Against an opponent who's repping strength here would any of you ever check/call or c/r the turn instead of leading out?? I think I would tend to take that line more often but probably losing value by doing that. Is this something that's player dependent? And against an unknown most people just lead out on the turn?

 

Originally Posted by winkie23

disagree with your first point. Good players are very capable of checking that river with a flush to induce a bluff, I don't at all think it would be unlucky if he has them he very well might.

on your second point villain acts first so not sure what you mean when you say check/call or c/r instead of leading out? When we're checked to on the turn and that 10 hits, I can't imagine ever checking back, there are a lot of cards you don't want to see on the river and giving him a free card is not a good idea

True with your first part, he could easily check with the flush but I'd say he has some 1 pair hand alot more of the time than a fd. On the the 2nd part whoops I thought villain had position for some reason. Yeah definitely not checking behind on the turn then that would be really bad. Thanks for spotting that.

Interested to hear more opinions about the river spot on this one.

yea, most are thinking same as i was. wanted to make sure i was completely off in thinking hearts is a very small possibility.

i bet like 900 on river and called his shove. he had AhKh.

i am pretty sure i am still ok with my line tho, as i think most players would double barrell AKhh or AQhh or c/r it. check/calling turn as villian with AKhh seems very weak to me.

i could maybe bet more on turn, but again i wasn't too worried about hearts and he isn't folding the AKhh for any amount i wouldnt think, so i am getting called by most of his range that is drawing thin.

basically was just looking if others would have my read that hearts isnt likely enough to consider not getting it in or checking behind or something on river.

bet/fold river... unless hes a total spaz or a very very capable player he is not shoving over the top of a healthy river bet with something that u have beat. cant be scared to bet/fold your value hands

 

Originally Posted by firaldo

Really dont like b/c river, we're betting to get value from hands that he wants to showdown - none of this range c/s the river unless he's incredibly sick (and from his 3b sizing alone he's obv not) and he has 0 bluffs in his range with the line he took so there's no point in betting small to 'induce'

Id bet more on the turn to try get stacks in by river (the only hands we can get in by the river are overpairs and strong Jx that are never c/f turn to anything pot sized or less so it doesnt matter if we bet big cos his call/fold ranges are pretty inelastic and it forces him to shove/fold flushdraws which is great for us) then shove river - as played id bet/fold like 1800-2k

Pretty sure he only has ~3k by the river... jus sayin

Usually since it's a post the hand was lost, but that doesn't take away what can be gained. I know you know this tho slim. Regardless I like this 'revamped' forum I think there's a lot to gain from serious responses.