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.25/.50 cash game hand...good fold?

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  1. TdyKGB2 TdyKGB2 is offline

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    May 29th, 2009 (5/29/2009 8:26pm)

    pokerstars Game #28760518760: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2009/05/29 15:44:35 ET Table 'Chryseis III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: NickLars0n ($91.70 in chips)
    Seat 2: JLEO533 ($34.25 in chips)
    Seat 3: gnk08 ($10 in chips)
    Seat 4: jqklaaxx ($101 in chips)
    Seat 5: TdyKGB2 ($48.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: 24CMSLAK ($157.30 in chips)
    Seat 7: Abellino ($125.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: wasserss ($8.50 in chips)
    Seat 9: DerBremer12 ($35.30 in chips)
    NickLars0n: posts small blind $0.25
    JLEO533: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TdyKGB2 [Ks Ah]
    gnk08: folds
    jqklaaxx: calls $0.50
    TdyKGB2: raises $1.50 to $2
    24CMSLAK: folds
    Abellino: folds
    wasserss: folds
    gnk08 leaves the table
    DerBremer12: folds
    NickLars0n: calls $1.75
    JLEO533: folds
    electro021 joins the table at seat #3
    jqklaaxx: calls $1.50
    *** FLOP *** [4c 6h As]
    NickLars0n: checks
    jqklaaxx: checks
    TdyKGB2: checks
    *** TURN *** [4c 6h As] [9c]
    NickLars0n: checks
    jqklaaxx: checks
    TdyKGB2: bets $3
    NickLars0n: calls $3
    jqklaaxx: calls $3
    *** RIVER *** [4c 6h As 9c] [9s]
    NickLars0n: checks
    jqklaaxx: bets $11.50
    TdyKGB2: folds
    NickLars0n: folds
    Uncalled bet ($11.50) returned to jqklaaxx
    jqklaaxx collected $14.75 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $15.50 | Rake $0.75 Board [4c 6h As 9c 9s]
    Seat 1: NickLars0n (small blind) folded on the River
    Seat 2: JLEO533 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: gnk08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: jqklaaxx collected ($14.75)
    Seat 5: TdyKGB2 folded on the River
    Seat 6: 24CMSLAK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Abellino folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: wasserss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: DerBremer12 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    I checked the flop for pot control. Don't know if I like that or not but I didn't want to build a big pot in case someone hit a set. I think that jqklaaxx either hit a set and was slowplaying or turned and rivered trip 9's. Not sure though. What's your read?
  2. P33J P33J is offline

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    May 30th, 2009 (5/30/2009 12:52am) in reply to TdyKGB2

    My line would be more like: Bet flop (more than $3 dollars also, your turn bet was awful and weak.), check behind on the turn if they both called for pot control (assuming the action goes somewhat the same.). As played your hand looks so incredibly weak that I think you have to call.
     
  3. KidDelicious KidDelicious is offline

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    May 30th, 2009 (5/30/2009 12:38pm) in reply to TdyKGB2

    there are 3 people seeing the flop..bet it.

    as played, yes it's a fold.
  4. odstore odstore is offline

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    May 30th, 2009 (5/30/2009 9:44pm) in reply to TdyKGB2

    You should be c-betting this flop for value 100% of the time imo. If one of them flopped a set then you're going to lose some money, that's just the way it is. You're in position and you effectively flopped nuts so get paid.
  5. TdyKGB2 TdyKGB2 is offline

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    May 30th, 2009 (5/30/2009 10:08pm) in reply to odstore

    Yes, I think if I could redo this hand I would of bet about $4 or so on the flop and then perhaps checked the turn instead for pot control. I really didn't put anyone else on an ace to pay me off. I put the limp/caller on a pp and the SB on perhaps broadway cards. I just don't like building a big pot with one pair unless I have a real specific read that an opponent has a pair with a weaker kicker than mine.
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  6. odstore odstore is offline

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    May 30th, 2009 (5/30/2009 10:21pm) in reply to TdyKGB2

    You put them on those specific hands based on what? Weaker aces are certainly in their ranges as well as medium pocket pairs that will want to peel one on such a dry flop.
  7. KidDelicious KidDelicious is offline

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    May 31st, 2009 (5/31/2009 8:07pm) in reply to TdyKGB2

    the 9 changes basically nothing unless he has A9 or 99, then you will find out on the turn. bet flop, turn, river 100% unless c/r then you know you are beat. you don't need to build a large pot with one pair. you don't even need to bet more than 1/2 pot on turn and river due to it being dryer than the desert. you want to get paid from A10+ hands.
  8. odstore odstore is offline

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    May 31st, 2009 (5/31/2009 9:47pm) in reply to KidDelicious

     
    Originally Posted by KidDelicious View Post

    the 9 changes basically nothing unless he has A9 or 99, then you will find out on the turn. bet flop, turn, river 100% unless c/r then you know you are beat. you don't need to build a large pot with one pair. you don't even need to bet more than 1/2 pot on turn and river due to it being dryer than the desert. you want to get paid from A2+ hands.

    fyp, this is nl50
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