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$27 45 Hand, please critique

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  1. wynnkid wynnkid is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:18pm)

    pokerstars Game #21393756034: Tournament #115679088, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/10/22 0:55:15 ET

    Table '115679088 3' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

    Seat 1: rat sauce 89 (3595 in chips)
    Seat 2: Sebop (3420 in chips)
    Seat 3: SOTW100 (5295 in chips)
    Seat 4: wynnkid (9920 in chips)
    Seat 5: SkunkDen (2870 in chips)
    Seat 7: CountryGal81 (1565 in chips)
    Seat 8: hellzito (2435 in chips)

    rat sauce 89: posts the ante 50
    Sebop: posts the ante 50
    SOTW100: posts the ante 50
    wynnkid: posts the ante 50
    SkunkDen: posts the ante 50
    CountryGal81: posts the ante 50
    hellzito: posts the ante 50
    rat sauce 89: posts small blind 300
    Sebop: posts big blind 600

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to wynnkid [Ad Tc]
    SOTW100: folds
    wynnkid: raises 885 to 1485
    SkunkDen: folds
    CountryGal81: folds
    hellzito: folds
    rat sauce 89: raises 2060 to 3545 and is all-in
    Sebop: calls 2770 and is all-in
    wynnkid: calls 2060

    *** FLOP *** [5s 5h 3d]
    *** TURN *** [5s 5h 3d] [8h]
    *** RIVER *** [5s 5h 3d 8h] [9c]

    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    rat sauce 89: shows [Jh As] (a pair of Fives)
    wynnkid: shows [Ad Tc] (a pair of Fives - lower kicker)
    rat sauce 89 collected 350 from side pot
    Sebop: shows [Js Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
    Sebop collected 10460 from main pot

    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 10810 Main pot 10460. Side pot 350. | Rake 0
    Board [5s 5h 3d 8h 9c]
    Seat 1: rat sauce 89 (small blind) showed [Jh As] and won (350) with a pair of Fives
    Seat 2: Sebop (big blind) showed [Js Jd] and won (10460) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
    Seat 3: SOTW100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: wynnkid showed [Ad Tc] and lost with a pair of Fives
    Seat 5: SkunkDen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: CountryGal81 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: hellzito (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet

    There were roughly 13-15 players left in this 45, please break this hand down and tell me if I should have played it any differently. What was good, what was bad. Any and all comments appreciated.
     
  2. polyballer22 polyballer22 is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:22pm) in reply to wynnkid

    Well with the stack sizes at this table, any raise u make commits you to calling their all in. If you arent comfortable with that, muck pre. otherwise, run better.
     
  3. AAeveryhand AAeveryhand is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:25pm) in reply to wynnkid

    Please ignore the first poster, fold this please, your never ahead here, and no u dont have odds, your dominated every time here
     
  4. cardsOFmaine cardsOFmaine is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:26pm) in reply to polyballer22

    muck pre or if you raise and there is 2 all-ins like how you played it muck then push any +EV spot you can - don't raise early with ATos in any sng to start
  5. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:29pm) in reply to wynnkid

    Shove pre, rather than open-raising.

    As played, just know that rat sauce 89 is a good player and isn't likely playing back with no fold equity unless he has a real hand. It's close, but I'd fold it.

    You are getting 4-1 and won't win 1/5 times, but you almost will so it's close.

    The key is to avoid this possibility to begin with. When you avoid tough decisions, you don't have to make any.
  6. jus2awsum jus2awsum is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:31pm) in reply to wynnkid

    i shove here every single time, get snapped by 2 people and think it's standard
     
  7. wynnkid wynnkid is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2008 (10/22/2008 5:36pm) in reply to Jennifear

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    Shove pre, rather than open-raising.

    As played, just know that rat sauce 89 is a good player and isn't likely playing back with no fold equity unless he has a real hand. It's close, but I'd fold it.

    You are getting 4-1 and won't win 1/5 times, but you almost will so it's close.

    The key is to avoid this possibility to begin with. When you avoid tough decisions, you don't have to make any.

    thats what i was thinking, i should have either shoved pre, or folded.
    but the question or problems i was having. is i instead raised, then got shoved 2 ways. should i have folded there or call the extra 2000 getting 4/1.

    i did not like this spot, i think i played it poorly
     
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  8. MuiMuiBueno MuiMuiBueno is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2008 (10/23/2008 1:10am) in reply to wynnkid

    FOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDD o and fold
  9. wynnkid wynnkid is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2008 (10/23/2008 3:09am) in reply to MuiMuiBueno

     
    Originally Posted by MuiMuiBueno View Post


    FOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDD o and fold

    when?

    preflop?

    or after i already put in the raise and got shoved???
     
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  10. blackstar74 blackstar74 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2008 (10/23/2008 3:12am) in reply to wynnkid

     
    Originally Posted by wynnkid View Post

     
    Originally Posted by MuiMuiBueno View Post


    FOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDD o and fold

    when?

    preflop?

    or after i already put in the raise and got shoved???

    I would say fold pre unless your image is tight as hell. With the reraise all in and a call, your hand just doesnt play well. Granted the pot odds are good I think im folding the reraise. Not only that but your stack is a decent (workable at any rate)size so no need to make a marginal situation a bad one.
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