2nd hand of the main event. I am capable of laying this down..but the question is on a somewhat wet board and with so many randoms in the game, should I? Advice please.

Full Tilt Poker Game #12278716896: FTOPS Main Event (84235131), Table 488 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:03:44 ET - 2009/05/17
Seat 1: DiPollo (7,485)
Seat 2: TMAC1317 (7,470)
Seat 3: sloroger (7,500)
Seat 4: RDRJ (7,575)
Seat 5: RonFezBuddy (7,470)
Seat 6: FreeMoney323 (7,500)
Seat 7: jdpc27 (7,500)
Seat 9: Tatute (7,500)
TMAC1317 posts the small blind of 15
sloroger posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jdpc27 [6c 6s]
RDRJ folds
RonFezBuddy raises to 90
FreeMoney323 calls 90
jdpc27 calls 90
Tatute calls 90
DiPollo folds
TMAC1317 folds
sloroger calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8d 6d]
sloroger checks
RonFezBuddy bets 300
FreeMoney323 calls 300
jdpc27 has 15 seconds left to act
jdpc27 raises to 850
Tatute has 15 seconds left to act
Tatute folds
sloroger folds
RonFezBuddy folds
FreeMoney323 has 15 seconds left to act
FreeMoney323 raises to 2,000
jdpc27 ????

Results:

If this was someone i had played with before and they had played with me, i think i can find the fold button...but from a random with no consistency in results / scores, I just couldn't find the fold button regardless of the strength his line was screaming..I really just thought at the time that he would have just called my repop on the flop with the diamond draw..and even among the diamond draws, the only reraise that made some sense was akd or kqd. but still, i decided i would ride this one out and embrace the cooler if thats what it was. To double up in the main event, i just couldn't pass it up.

jdpc27 raises to 7,410, and is all in
FreeMoney323 calls 5,410, and is all in
jdpc27 shows [6c 6s]
FreeMoney323 shows [8h 8s]
*** TURN *** [Kh 8d 6d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8d 6d 5h] [3c]
jdpc27 shows three of a kind, Sixes
FreeMoney323 shows three of a kind, Eights
FreeMoney323 wins the pot (15,585) with three of a kind, Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15,585 | Rake 0
Board: [Kh 8d 6d 5h 3c]
Seat 1: DiPollo (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: TMAC1317 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: sloroger (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: RDRJ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: RonFezBuddy folded on the Flop
Seat 6: FreeMoney323 showed [8h 8s] and won (15,585) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 7: jdpc27 showed [6c 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 9: Tatute folded on the Flop

gg me. Thanks for the responses....this was a tough one for me and i just wanted to make sure that a whole bunch of people didn't reply saying "he has 88 fold". thanks.

Raise, he's on a flush draw or has 2 pair.

never a draw. 88 gg.

The goal is to get all the chips if ur folding this hand you need to quit poker if he has 88 oh well but my money is AK or something you absoultely snap call here.

Don't see how this is a gross spot,get it in every time.

snap fold imo

The line looks like it should 88 94.99% of the time and 5% KQdi. However, w/ so many randoms in this tournament you can see a whole wide range of shit here and I don't think you can ever fold this vs. a random.

If you are capable of folding it, then you should, seems like he shows up with 88 or KK way too often, and the time he doesnt he has a flush draw which isnt a lock for you either.

Get it in, there's a good chance he is 3betting KK pre, so we can discount that a bit, and 88 is the only other had that beats you so get it in and be happy about it imo

LOL. Why did you not timebank and Sharkscope/OPR??

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Snap get that shit in.

FDs, 86, TPGK, etc, etc.
edit. his last 10 tournies on FTP have been freerolls.

thanks for the responses to so far...

in my analysis, i do not have op on AA or KK. those hands simply have to reraised given the stack sizes.

AK is possible as it should not be an auto reraise this early with these stack sizes, even tho many would play it that way. A bunch of combo's with diamonds are possible and a straight draw is possible, but pretty unlikely. i believe opponent to have either 88, 79 (maybe of another suit), and a possible overplaying of AK, KQ with one diamond, and ak, kq, 910 with two diamonds.

the reason why the spot is so sick is cuz his line exactly as played screams strength. I'm hoping a few more will chime in..

JD

wow that is super sick. i dont think hes flatting kk in such early pos this early. i would not fold its more then likely someone ridiculously overplaying kq. kqdd is a very probable hand. im not folding here and it sux balls if you ran into 888

His name is a tell. I put him on 22+, 23s+, 23o+

 

Originally Posted by yay415area

 

Originally Posted by tayke2

The goal is to get all the chips if ur folding this hand you need to quit poker if he has 88 oh well but my money is AK or something you absoultely snap call here.

if he is playing ak like this he is the worst player ever.

I got stacked off with AA vs AT. If he is playing AK like this he is the second worst player ever. I can not see myself folding a set in an event packed with sattie donks.

EDIT: My hand: Villain raises, I RR, he RR, I RR, he flats for half his stack, flop 7-8-9 rainbow, villain c/raises allin, 7 turn 6 riv

im sure a lot of donks and fish play AK this way, i would never fold vs a random here